When using Adobe Flash Player 10 why is there high cpu/memory usage (100% utilization)?
I recently upgraded to a newer version of Adobe Flash Player 10, and it has a nasty habit of using 100% of the CPU all the time, whenever viewing flash videos. What's up with that? Seriously the video quality isnt that great to be using anything near that...and some part of Flash is hogging up all the cpu. It is quite annoying, and much older versions of Flash never did this. Even using a high-end cpu, Adobe Flash Player does this, causing freezes or very bad video performance.(Usually resulting in force closing the internet browser, both Firefox and Internet Explorer it happens.) Even in videos that are not of high quality the cpu usage is very high, along with memory usage. (cmon adobe what happened to releasing a stable working version - not some unpredictable cpu-memory hog?)
A lot of people are complaining about this...Is there a fix being worked on in future versions?
A lot of people are complaining about this...Is there a fix being worked on in future versions?
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Inappropriate?Hi,
I am from adobe and I am looking to reproduce this issue internally. Can you provide with more specific info? (i.e. machine configuration and the video you're viewing) We also have an external bugbase you can submit your bug to. It's available here; http://bugs.adobe.com/flashplayer/
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Lol... not just v10, v9 too.
Try this page: www.bacardi.com, then enter a valid drinking age, press enter, and watch the cpu peg at or near 100% on the next page. Happens in IE and FF (any version). I think its a good test case for your performance team over there! -
Hi bao,
I looked at the bug db and there are a number of outstanding bugs for high CPU utilization with Flash Player. It's not very hard to reproduce. So any resolution on this? -
Inappropriate?WOW! i have a quad core cpu and that almost maxed out 2 of the cores 89% and the other 2 cores went up to 60%. that's crazy
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Inappropriate?This has been happening on Pandora radio as well (mainly using Safari), but it's intermittent.
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Inappropriate?i thought i was the only one having these problems its nice to know that im not. i really hope that adobe fixes this bug to 100% CPU is ridiculous
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Inappropriate?Same Problem! I can barely scrape out youtube on normal video quality, but going up to high quality or HD sometimes even means a forced shut down if I can't regain control of or close IE. I have a 2.4GHz processor..... I can download a video with better quality and watch it just fine, but ANY flash app causes massive amounts of CPU usage. However, my friend running xp on a laptop with a 1.8GHz processor can watch HD youtube full screen. My only two guesses would be interference with Vista or with with AMD graphics cards... looking around I have found a lot of AMD users reporting the same issues.
I’m frustrated
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Hmm, I'm WinXp Pro + Intel laptop with an intel graphics chipset. So I'm not sure the issue is limited to the AMD chipset.
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Inappropriate?I forgot to add i am using windows xp and the cpu is a AMD Phenom x4 - 3.8GHz but its clocked at 4.2GHz per core and this flash is bogging it way down. at times it maxes it out all four cores at 100% it should not be doing this at all not even close.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I see this happening on all sorts of pages with Flash embedded. Movies or not, FF3 or Safari 3 or Safari 4 Beta on the OS X Leopard
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?We need update, please...you can't listen to mp3's without them clicking and popping while you are surfing!
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Same issue, all browsers.
There was a story years ago that Intel and Microsoft had a deal that Microsoft would keep bloating their software so Intel would sell new chips. It seems with the browser being a much more used component of day to day computer use that Intel needed a new friend. This is why Apple is always hesitant to support Flash. It's bloat. Why does Acrobat need to be nearly a GB install? Adobe is clearly Intel's new buddy. -
Inappropriate?I got this problem fixed on my computer. I removed ALL adobe programs the searched my computer for any left over adobe files and I found a lot of them, I shredded them them. then I restarted my computer. then ran another search and I found a few more adobe notepad files. I shredded them too. then restarted my computer again, and again I ran another search and found nothing. then I went to adobe's web site and got the newest flash player and saved the file to my desktop. then searched for the flash player patch. and saved it to my desktop too. Then closed the browser. cleared the browser's cookies and history. Then restarted my computer. Installed the flash player. restarted my computer Then installed the patch. restarted my computer again. now my CPU is running at 10% to 15 % on www.bacardi.com. before it was running at 98% It worked for me. Hopefully it works for you too?
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?I have CS4 installed; there is no way I am installing all of that just to improve Flash's performance. OTOH, it's like my whole computer is being taken hostage. I've just installed 4 GB of RAM today and I'll see if things improve.
I’m unhappy with Flash
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Inappropriate?No excuses! I signed up just to state a comment. This version of Adobe Flash IS the problem! Ram hog. Not websites, browsers, computers, GPU's, CPU's, or anything on the user's end. This is a flash version problem. Your problem.
Too many sites depend on Adobe flash and your killing them! Forget about watching HULU, Youtube, or any other dependant site without frustration from loading...its ridiculous! I have brought this issue up on many forums trying to fix the latency issues from websites...troubleshooting all the above stated end user issues...blaming sites, my computer, my ISP...and all this time its your stupid flash player that is the problem...universally! Fix it!
I've spend weeks trying to troubleshoot this and all this time it was your idiotic upgraded flash version! If there was an alternative I'd download it in a heartbeat! The sad part is, you know it! This is why you ignore our complaints as long as you can by sending us in absurd directions...sending us to sites telling us their to blame or our computers or our ISP's connection! Enough! The problem is your flash player! Get it?! Stop telling us on other forums its our end or the websites end.
I hope that you will begin to get letters and calls from everyone who is losing revenue that depend on Adobe flash via their websites. Maybe when your bottom line gets put at risk, maybe then, you'll stop making us chase our tails! For crying out loud, Fix your damn program!
Bronnster
I’m angry
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I wonder if there is a way to make someone higher-up aware of this issue?
There's a number of bugs posted in the Adobe Bug Database, so clearly, that doesn't help.
Maybe point them to this GetSatisfaction post, the bugs in the db? And they could push the right buttons? We'd be doing the whole WWW community a big favor!
How about Shantanu Narayen (CEO)? Anybody have his email address :-) ? I'm sure he could get it fixed, if he knew. And maybe he already does, if he's a fan of youtube or Hulu (or even Bacardi :-) )... -
I've been doing research about this problem for weeks because i have also experienced it with my vista home premium laptop. Just recently, I have finally found the solution, well at least for my laptop. The problem is not my browser or my OS or my pc's memory. The problem is caused by authorization for flash player.
Read the link (posted below) carefully and follow the steps accordingly. If you have already done steps 1 through 6 with your computer, you can go straight to step 7. Please remember that steps 1 through 6 are only preparations for step 7 onwards; they are to be done to make sure steps 7 and up will work properly.
http://thetechangel.com/blogberry/200...
PS: I am not the author of that link, so please thank the respective site owner if you find the procedure very helpful.
Please let me know also if the link solves your problem. I am sharing because Adobe seems unable to provide solutions to this, and I don't want to hear people suffer. -
Inappropriate?Sorry for the lack of updates. Be assured that your comments do not go unnoticed and we are diligently working on this issue.
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Hi Bao,
Any ETA on a fix?
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Inappropriate?I have the same problem... I have amd 64 bit 3500+ with 512 MB DDR RAM ... After I installed flash player 10 every flash animation is a nightmare for me... uses 100% cpu. I downgraded to flash player 9 and still uses 100%.. So, the version 10 probably leaved some files..
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droL, no need to keep posting the same thing over and over (I get an email every single time someone replies to this topic). One comment was enough. With so many posts people will start skipping your link thinking it's SPAM. -
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Inappropriate?this is bad! it has killed my web browsing experience! there had better be an update soon!
I’m pissed off.
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Inappropriate?I have the same problem on this 64 bit AMD 4000+ with 2.5 gig of ram running Vista, flash videos using 60-70% of my CPU. My old 1.5 ghz sytem running XP with 500 meg of ram doesn't have any problem at all.
Please get this sorted out as it is seriously getting on my, and it would appear many other peoples, nerves.
I'd very much like to watch youtube, etc without listening to my CPU fan desperately trying to keep the thing cool.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I have the same problem , mine is vista,2 gig intel core 2 , 4 gig of RAM.. and my browser (with flash 10 player) crashed all the time...I tried all web browsers; safari, IE, FF.. no different...
Please help!!!
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I have same problem oso. I am using a 2.6Ghz Intel processor PC.
The adobe flash player kill my FF i was often forced to end the FF and restart it. But thanks to the FLASHBLOCK plugins now I suffer no more. I recommend you all to use it.
Anyhow I come here looking for a block for yahoo messenger flash AD. It kill my yahoo messenger.(I just end task it, 100% usage!!!!)
So adobe flash team you see that your flash player actually annoy many of your user? Feedback to your big boss and get his attention that this is the utmost issues. Solve it or face losing more your user! -
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Inappropriate?I have a Gateway MT3422 which is known to die from CPU heat. I have noticed a lot of these laptops dying recently. Could it possibly be from flash overheating the CPU? Just wondering.
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?Same problem. Running 1.83GHz Macbook Pro, OSX 10.5.7, Flash 10.
Videos (i.e. Youtube, Vimeo) are the worse, Vimeo for example is around 60%, and around 95% when full-screen. Youtube (lower quality compared to vimeo) is around 50%.
I have no idea what the hell your problem is (this is a very known problem — did you guys test on an 8-core Mac Pro or something? Because I find it hard to believe this issue didn't get noticed before you built and released the first public build...), but you need to get it sorted.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?It's deplorable. Hulu.com is just unwatchable on any level with this release - and this is on a HP 3.2GHz hyperthreaded, with 4GB memory. I get nearly 100% CPU utilization, and memory is hogged.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I have two computers with this problem, A Dell XP pro. w. 2GB memory, dual processors and a HP - Vista with 4GB memory, dual processors. This is driving me mad, I have tried every trick in the book, uninstalling, reinstalling, removing, changinig browsers and sometimes I get some temporary improvements but in the end I get the same results, the browser, no matter if it is FF, IE or Opera will end up hoging all the CPU when running flash player. Maybe not right away but in after a few videos.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Only wanted to inform you guys that I am running Flash on a CoreDuo MacBook with 20% cpu on Safari 4 during single playback from tudou.com. Nevertheless I think there is a lot of room for improvement - even a simple 640x480 30fps MJPG stream (with is in my opinion the worst streaming video format) takes only 4-5% cpu on Safari.
So fix your cpu hog or you will be never ever on the iPhone ;)
I’m not satisfied
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Inappropriate?I have a MacBook Pro 2.4 with 4GB ram, every time I open a page with flash animations/videos on it it's just a matter of seconds before both fans run at full blast. I wish you would fix this as flash is EVERYWHERE now. My computer very rarely runs hot for any other reason and I really hate fan noise! So be nice and fix this for us, will you Adobe? I use firefox, but it's the same in safari too.
Edit: I run the latest updated version of os x leopard.
I’m not happy with Flash!
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For Firefox check out the Flashblock plugin
For Safari install ClickToFlash http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/ -
For Firefox check out the Flashblock add-on
For Safari install ClickToFlash http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/ -
Inappropriate?Same issue...
Try msnbc.com...
If you hide the video the CPU goes down put what is the point then...
Same for Explorer, Firefox and Chrome
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Yet ANOTHER user f-r-u-s-t-r-a-t-e-d by Flash's stranglehold on his CPU!
Browsing the Internet is so taxing these days because of Flash!
I’m frustrated!
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Inappropriate?Possible solution offered in this forum. I have not tried this because I have reverted back to version 9. I can only hope that this may work for some of you.
Good luck.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r2236... -
Inappropriate?Thank's Bronnster but sadly it made no difference.
Does anyone from adobe actually read this forum?
I’m still pissed off
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Inappropriate?I've tried every fix on this site and others and still NO fix for adobe flash! When exactly and how many pissed off users of their product, flash, are needed to make themselves useful and get a fix for this obvious debilitating problem for ALL computer users that use their product, flash.
There is a lack of customer service to address this issue as it appears they do not feel it necessary to warrant any fix to help this flash problem. Either the CEO of the company and the technical support has so many requests for fixes that they are overwhelmed by the requests, or they have made no effort to post a fix in any of their forums, this or otherwise.
Adobe Inc. have neglected their obligation to users who have supported their product and have offered absolutely no constructive fix for this which undermines the value and reputation of this company, which reflects poorly towards their customers expectations and needs.
To not address this flash issue in a comprehensive manner has shown their lack of responsibility for their defunked flash product. I would suggest to adobe that they fix this problem that affect personal and businesses alike, and provide appropriate customer service, or they will feel the backlash of not meeting the quality standards that their customers need and expect.
Adobe, you have failed miserably!
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Well put Steve. Yet, silence to this matter continues. Where is our alternative to flash? To hell with Adobe Flash. They have embraced the power of a monopoly in this area and have given us the finger. If your computer isn't powered by the Sun itself, you will experience frustrations abound in your video viewing.
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Inappropriate?Does this mean we'll have to contact the content providers and ask them to switch to Silverlight?
It did work for the US Presidential inauguration.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Agreed - Adobe buying Macromedia and hijacking Flash into this monstrous bloat-ware. I don't think Adobe realizes their "monopoly" is precarious. Folks will go where the stuff works well, and if that's Silverlight - then there you have it. Seems like 90% of Flash these days is just FLVs anyhow.
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Inappropriate?I have downloaded Silverlight now. If by chance, those who have lost traffic and/or revenue due to the arrogant behavior of Adobe in regards to the obviously bloated flash player's poor performance, notify us via Silverlight's forums. I will check often and I will gladly patronize your site.
http://silverlight.net/forums/25.aspx
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Inappropriate?Flash to Silverlight is frying pan to fryer. What you're looking for is HTML5's Video tag, with support for the free video format, Theora. Because it's royalty-free and an open spec, lots of people can implement players, you don't have to depend on one company which may or may not be responsive to user complaints. Anybody can build a better player and charge for it or give it away. Even Adobe. Firefox 3.5 is due out any day now and supports it. Flash video is almost unusable on my brand new 1.6GHz Atom notebook, but salvation is nigh.
I’m apathetic
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this answers the question
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Inappropriate?"What you're looking for is HTML5's Video tag, with support for the free video format, Theora."
Thank you for the information. Looking into it.
"Firefox 3.5 is due out any day now and supports it... salvation is nigh."
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Inappropriate?Just installed Firefox 3.5, seems to help the problem.
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Inappropriate?Same problem with Firefox 3.5 for me.
Removing Flash solves the problem but then no youtube. If only they used <video>.</video> -
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Inappropriate?ditto... streaming flash is unwatchable... boggles the mind how something like this could have been released by Adobe
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While I haven't tried this yet, I don't think this addresses the issues individuals in this forum are having. It is not that Flash prompts you to install the latest version and refuses to load certain pages; but rather the websites just chug and the video frame rate is really crappy. The PC usage jumps through the roof when loading any page that uses flash. -
I agree with Kyle. This "fix" is nothing more than a thorough uninstall/reinstall. It's not going to magically make Flash 10 less CPU intensive. Nice try, though. :-) -
Believe me, the link I gave here really solves adobe flash player excessive cpu usage...the installation/re-installation process is just used to assure that steps 7 onward will work correctly.
steps 1 through 6 are only a preparation for steps 7 onwards. you can ignore steps 1 to 6, and go directly at steps 7.
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Inappropriate?flash seems ok for basic stuff like ads, but is a HOG for streaming content. It will easily take all CPU and get the fans spinning in a couple seconds because the computer (macbook pro) gets steaming hot.
this problem has been around for ages on every single mac browser i've tried, and going back several OS versions. It's not just the latest versions (including the one that was released today). When is Adobe going to wake up and fix this problem for mac users?
I’m fed up
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Believe me, the link I gave here really solves adobe flash player excessive cpu usage...the installation/re-installation process is just used to assure that steps 7 onward will work correctly.
steps 1 through 6 are only a preparation for steps 7 onwards. you can ignore steps 1 to 6, and go directly at steps 7.
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Believe me, the link I gave here really solves adobe flash player excessive cpu usage...the installation/re-installation process is just used to assure that steps 7 onward will work correctly.
steps 1 through 6 are only a preparation for steps 7 onwards. you can ignore steps 1 to 6, and go directly at steps 7.
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it doesn't work because I'm on your mac and those instructions are for people using IE on Windows. -
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Inappropriate?@ Kyle and Timeless:
Believe me, the link I gave here really solves adobe flash player excessive cpu usage...the installation/re-installation process is just used to assure that steps 7 onward will work correctly.
steps 1 through 6 are only a preparation for steps 7 onwards. you can ignore steps 1 to 6, and go directly at steps 7.
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droL -
I followed the steps you suggested, making absolutely certain I did everything correctly.
The result? FLASH STILL DOGS MY CPU.
The page you linked to doesn't say a WORD about Flash being CPU intensive. Its whole purpose is to help people who can't get Flash to run at all -- which is NOT the problem people here are having.
I knew before I tried your "cure" that it wouldn't help the situation. It really is just a thorough uninstall/reinstall. NOTHING MORE.
I appreciate your desire to help, but the fact of the matter is that you DO NOT have a solution to the problem people in this thread are having. -
Inappropriate?It's not a matter of believing that your issue was solved by fixing some Windows permissions, but this is a cross-platform problem and Windows access semantics aren't in play on Macintosh or Linux machines - there are no complex permissions matrices there to tweak - the concept of 'full control' simply doesn't apply to their discretionary access control model. That is to say, you've probably solved a separate problem with similar symptoms, which is great - some of the people here may have that problem, and not merely be suffering from unoptimized CPU-hogging code.
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thanks bill. you may be right. but at least those who come here in search for solutions might be experienced the same problem as mine. my post may not help all people here, but i hope it helps most people who come here. :) -
Inappropriate?Ok, so, this droL fella is some anoying idiot, who replies like a bot, and it is obvious that he is promoting flash player, for a download count. this "fix" doesnt fix a thing.
the problem is CPU load, not your "authorisation", you ignorant spamer! and, your solution does not mention CPU usage, just a faulty player.
so, what to do now, i seached all of the internetz (came across the drol spammer a lot) and did not find anything.
i have a powerfull machine, my PC specs: Phenom2 9550 OCed, 2x2GB, and 4870 ATi, and my CPU still jumps high when flash content (not just videos) are running, in any browser (tried chrome, IE, FF, and Opera)
Gnash project is trying to make a valid alternative, but the problem is that there is no sound, in newer youtube vidoes. and, it requires instalation of several codec packages.
so, i did a little research about this, and accidently i found something out - on 9 out of 10 PC's I came in contact with, there is a flash player 10 problem. and, on my neighbour PC - there is latest flash updated - and no lag, no slowing down, no CPU usage over 50%. and she has Athlon 3200+ with 1Gb ram. som i checked her system, for everything - same FF, same registry entries, everything is the same, with one difference - she has Win XP 32bit SP2.
so, i imply one of you - if you know a friend with OS that has not been updated lately, and that runs SP2 XP, please try to see if there is a difference in flash player CPU consumption. -
Pozdrav Igoritza :) I've got a SP2 XP (2.8GHz Intel) but, unfortunately, updated to flash 10 and here's what happens. I've used Chromium and the latest Firefox and the only difference so far has been with web music players (especially b92.fm player, Chrome can't open it and when I do manage to get it started, it uses all CPU, Firefox runs it fine). However, both browsers go to 30-50% CPU with flash video and over 70% with flash games and presentations (website intros and such). So I don't think it's got anything to do with service pack. -
Inappropriate?Ok, so i found a ridiculous solution. it soo has noyhing to do with common sense, and everything that me or you know about PC's, that i am still shocked.
searching for answers, i found out about some dude that posted a solution with cleaning dust in his PC. out of despare, i looked into it (he obviously lowered CPU temp by cleaning the dust from the fans)
it is summer, here in Serbia, from where I am. and my room temperature is high, cause AC unit is in the living room.
so, unlike in the winter, my overall chassis temperature is higher. i have an OCZ Vindicator, whitch is a good cooler, but stock fan runs on low RPM, only 1000, and i did not have any other 120mm fan for Vindicator. Everest reports that my temp is 65c
so, i took Intel X6800 extreme box, from some other PC i assembled, and found in it unused Intel 775 stock cooler. then the work started - i modded the base of the cooler, and made fot it an AM2+ attaching base (for my phenom) and by modding the electro engine in it, i raised default 2000 rpm to 3000+ rpm, and putt it on the CPU - everest now reported that temp is 48, and that rpm of the fan is 3150 (whitch is probbably incorrect)
while playibg Biotronic on facebook (flash game) with first settings - i had 90% CPU with spikes to 100%
now - there is 65% CPU with spikes to 75% and there is no slowing down, or frame skip, or anything.
this IS THE SOLUTION, but it does not make sense. CPU by all means should run SAME on any temperature, untill CPU crashes, or MoBo BIOS shuts him down (if there is a temp limit set)
is there some ridiculous bug from Adobe developers, that connected memory usage of the app, with CPU sensor, or what ? i really dont know, go ahead and try this solution. i don know what to make of it. -
Inappropriate?SO ADOBE you going to fix this problem or what??
This problem is so F*****@#@# annoying I have Flashblock disable all flash.
FIX THE DAM PROBLEM PLEASE PLEASE!
this problem has gone on for to long and why havent we had a response from adobe yet?
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Igoritza, does your BIOS do dynamic frequency scaling? It may scale back your CPU max depending on temperature. Your instincts are right, that Adobe code doesn't alter the way computers work.
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Inappropriate?I agree with most of the above posts. I also wish the little bot, droL, would stop with the repetitive posts. Once is helpful, but someone with the ability to edit needs to step in and remove repeat postings.
I’m over it.
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Inappropriate?Hello All,
After reaching heights of frustration with Adobe flash player on my Dell Inspiron laptop for many months, I am writing this note. I literally wanted to break the laptop as I had nightmares watching MLB live games on this laptop.
I read all posts mentioned above and I then tried to resolve the problem with a clean state. I uninstalled all Adobe programs (including, flash player, shockwave flash, Active X plug-ins on IE, even Acrobat reader), ensure that Adobe files or folders are not orphaned in my laptop and rebooted the machine. This was done using uninstall utility provided by Adobe. I had to explicitly uninstall shockwave flash from Add/Remove programs.
After unintalls were done, I went to adobe site and had a clean install of v10 Flash Player.
I don't know if above would work for all, but in my case, it appears to yield expected results. I dont want to be ecstatic until I am absolutely sure and I am testing it at this time. As of this time, youtube or mlb or any other streaming video site has never choked the CPU beyond 65%. It used to be at a constant 98% before I performed above steps.
Forgive me if someone else posted the same suggestion earlier, I am just trying to see if it would help others.
Good luck. Aaron S Malladi
I’m still checking
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Inappropriate?Here are some good resources to show that Adobe is concerned about performance, and to help you understand how Adobe tries to help programmers using our platform to optimize their applications' performance as well. Though this is AIR branded, it speaks to the Player in general since it is much of the core of AIR.
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So how does that relate to here? What are you trying to say? You are not wanting to support flash anymore?
I am sorry but I think this is a slap in the face to us users that you made a post here about how you help out air developers.
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@Brian,
As I said, though the post is on an AIR branded blog, it's about work that the core Flash Player team is planning to do to address performance issues that affect both publishing workflows. I'm afraid I don't have a solution for you, as this is not my area of expertise. I just wanted to share with you the fact that Adobe is focused on solving the problem discussed here in this thread. -
Inappropriate?Following three links deep there yields a positive comment:
We are laser-focused on improving CPU usage and recognize that it is a concern other developers and end users share as well. We hear you and we are absolutely positively working on it. :)
I am working on a blog post on our team blog to share a few tips related to this topic.
Thank you,
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Product Manager, Adobe AIR
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We should have a post from the Product Manager of Adobe Flash not Air. It just about concerns with Air developers/users not flash developers/users or Firefox. -
Inappropriate?The solution that I thought was working, actually worked for only few hours. i dont know what happened next day, I am back to the same problem. It is incredbily frustrating to know that there isn't any software chosen by Internet sites other than this problematic flash player.
I’m FRUSTRATED
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We are laser-focused on improving CPU usage and recognize that it is a concern other developers and end users share as well. We hear you and we are absolutely positively working on it. :)
mGin pointed out this concern/question on March 08, 2009 03:33, the starter of this thread. Maybe Mr. Product Manager Rob and his team need a better "laser-focused" setting adjustment eh?
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?"In order to view this site, watch this video, view these photos, listen to this song, etc..., YOU MUST DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL ADOBE FLASH...
This phrase is what monopolizes my choice. I should not need a degree from MIT in order to tweak Adobe Flash settings just to enjoy the Internet as an End-user. This is the problem, and this continued issue with high CPU usage being set aside in order to pursue newer product issues such as AIR, shows nothing more than arrogance in knowing that the End-user can do nothing more than spew their frustrations on sites and forum.
So far all I hear from Adobe is, "So what, nothing you gonna do about it hehehe. We'll get to it when we get to it."
I’m angry
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Inappropriate?Have this problem for at least _months_, on multiple PC-s, OS-es and browsers. (Also took a few clean reinstall rounds - with same "result" as Aaron S Malladi.
It's _clear_, that this is not a question of efficiency or so-called "performance" - there's a plain old BUG that hogs _any_ CPU down to 100%, regardless of it's maximum power.)
Took a "little" time, to figure all these out (tought for a while, that it's a Firefox issue), and I simply can't believe this level of ignorance from such a company.
Do they really think, if they do this with a proprietrary product of theirs - that won't have an effect on their other products sold for money, and having concurrence?!?
I hope, _everybody_ learns from this issue, not to use a proprietrary product of companies becoming kind of monopolys this way - because when there's such a bug, it's only a matter of luck to get the finger from them or not.
Long live open source!
I’m pissed off
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Inappropriate?I think we should all start sending emails to webmasters of Hulu, YouTube, etc. Ultimately, that is who Adobe makes a profit from. Maybe if the site developers start to see that their clients can't use their services anymore and are loosing revnue as a result, they will start to put pressure on Adobe. (or even better.. start to consider switching to a different platform!) I used to visit Hulu 3-5 times per week... I haven't been there for over 5 months now since flash started killing my computer. We can sit here and whine to Adobe all day long, but it doesn't matter to them until the people writing them checks start to complain or jump ship.
I’m out of options & disappointed.
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Inappropriate?I'm glad I found this thread after wondering for months what was wrong with my Dell Inspiron laptop. I could never trace the source of why the CPU usage would suddenly spike and end up with me doing a reboot. I was blaming antivirus programs, going from one to another, was ready to trash the laptop.
This laptop has 4GB of ram so I knew it could not be hardware. I switched to Firefox- same issue. I started car shopping and noticed this happened when going to the Mazdausa site. Finally figured out that the Flash content was causing the spike as I watched the CPU usage tank when the Flash content started to run.
I also had an older Dell laptop in the desk, running XP SP2, with 2GB ram. I dug it out and installed Flash v10, went to the Mazdausa site, same freaking problem--- so it has nothing to do with Vista.
I tried the link/procedures above, didn't work for me.
God I hope they fix this soon before a laptop goes flying.........
I’m beyond frustrated!!
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Inappropriate?if u use firefox, install flashblock addon. Of course now I need to do extra by clicking on the flash placeholder to show the flash because I block all flash by default. But I am d*mn happy doing the extra step because most the time the flash content on the web nowadays is flash ad that is redundant.
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Inappropriate?Thanks for that hint. Alot quieter PC now.
Adobe really need to fix this. Getting def up with explaining to customers that its flashing making there PC run slow & no I cant fix it until Adobe do -
Inappropriate?For some users out there, it might not be adobe that's causing the problem although large cpu usage occurs when playing flash files like in youtube. I have experienced it before and had suffered for months trying to figure out a solution but was focusing my attention in a wrong place. There are alot of suggestions I've found on the Internet, from updating Windows to Updating Adobe flash to cleaning my CPU compartment. But then, just recently I found a solution that dropped my cpu usage from agonizing 100% to 10 - 20%!
SearchIndex function of your computer might be the culprit, which hogs the cpu resource when it encounters problem in indexing. This works quietly in the background, and I used Process Explorer from Microsoft to detect it. SearchIndex always came on top of the list, using 50% of the total CPU consumption.
So I search MS knowledge base on how to resolve problem involving SearchIndex, and one good solution I found was go to CONTROL PANEL, click INDEXING OPTION, and then RESET it. It might be that the Indexing was unable to finish the whole routine and hangs up. You need to reset it to restart its indexing. Don't worry about the problem of encountering the same headache after some time. I've been using my pc for weeks now and everything's as smooth as silk. :)
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I have indexing turned completely off and have for some time, as one thing to eliminate as the source of the slowdowns.
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Inappropriate?6 months now since this thread was started and STILL NO TRACE OF A VIABLE FIX!
Adobe! You arrogant clowns! FIX IT!
I’m fed up with Adobe
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Inappropriate?I agree, it's very frustrating. And being reassured every few months that Adobe are focussed on performance in general doesn't do it for me.
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Inappropriate?I have had this problem for months on both my desktop and laptop. I avoid using adobe flash whenever possible. Now I am really getting angry. I work at home and am currently doing online training for a new WAH opportunity. Now some of the modules use Adobe Captivate. I don't have the option to just avoid it. This is ridiculous. This is their presentation software and of course its based on Adobe Flash.
This is in their promo:
"Adobe® Captivate® 4 software helps corporate trainers, educators, and business users design engaging, interactive multimedia and Adobe Flash® Player compatible presentations online that quickly communicate knowledge visually and effectively — without skills in HTML or the Adobe Flash authoring application."
They really need to fix it before they add to it.
I’m angry
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Inappropriate?Why not writing a petition on facebook or petitiononline.com? Someone with good writing skills around?.. We could also mention the fact that wasting CPU power is wasting energy and contributes to global warming, thus making Adobe a non-ecofriendly company. That's just an idea...
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Yes, I was also thinking about that if they would have to pay only -say- 1% of the price of energy wasted worldwide, since they haven't done anything about this bug - they probably were bankrupt by now.
I do the only thing I can as an individual - I'm boycotting all of their products in all possible ways, and also encourage others to do so. -
Yes, I was also thinking about that if they would have to pay only -say- 1% of the price of energy wasted worldwide, since they haven't done anything about this bug - they probably were bankrupt by now.
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Inappropriate?Did it again: CPU overheating while watching a Flash video, to the point the Macbook forces a shut down.
Thank you Adobe for ruining my web experience.
I’m more pissed at Adobe everyday
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Inappropriate?I gave up for now and disabled the Flash add-on for IE a few days ago, it's not worth the frustration. Before I figured out the culprit, I was actually looking at buying a new laptop I was so sick of dealing with the slowdowns, sure glad I didn't waste the $$$. I am waiting for Windows 7 to come out and hoping somehow this will resolve itself since it seems like Adobe isn't going to help.
I’m PO'd
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Inappropriate?Using Firefox and NetVideoHunter, I now download the videos I want to see, and then I watch them with FLV player. Problem solved. Bite me, Adobe.
I’m amused.
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Inappropriate?Hello I had the same problem and i signed up to report that installing an older version of the flash player - Version 9.0.47 to be more precise - has apparently improved the situation (for now).
I uninstalled flash with the removal app, then downloaded an the verision 9 pack from here:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266...
and installed the one labeled r47. there was a marked improvement but i still feel the cpu usage is higher than it should be (higher than it used to be anyway).
maybe some other releases work even better. maybe some other people could try the others and find which one works best?
good luck.
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Interesting, I rolled back to Version 8 and saw no change- same problems. Plus, on many web pages I got "warnings" that I need to update to the latest version to see all the content. So, that didn't work for me. -
Yeah well, i ended up installing version 10 again. The improvement (If there was actually any and it was not just my wishfull thinking) was marginal and yes many things require the latest version. so scratch that.
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Yeah well, i ended up installing version 10 again. The improvement (If there was actually any and it was not just my wishfull thinking) was marginal and yes many things require the latest version. so scratch that.
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Inappropriate?This is getting beyond a joke, my girlfriend's laptop shut down tonight watching a streaming site using flash because the CPU overheated.
And you useless wankers are doing absolutely nothing about it.
Why should this garbage programming be such a resource hog? It wasn't in the past until you lazy idiots messed it up. I hope you're proud of yourselves for pissing off so many people without having the courage to face your accusers.
You're cowards and you're incompetent.
6 months plus and no answer.
How much are you being paid?
Are you going to buy everyone who's computer dies through your own arrogant inadequacies a new PC or Laptop?
I’m furious.
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Inappropriate?I'll add myself to the chorus of unhappy consumers. I have the problem with IE8 and Firefox. Had the problem with both Vista and with a clean install of Windows 7.
Laptop is Inspiron E1505.
I can watch the first moments of a flash video, but then it just chokes and dies on the spot. Very depressing.
I’m frustrated and feeling out of options
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Inappropriate?I am somewhat relieved to learn that it is not only my computer is having this issue. It's frustrating for me because Youtube and Hulu is now unwatchable. Not to mentioned movie and movie clips from Yahoo that rely on Adobe Flash. It seems that this is a known issue going back to when Adobe Flash 10 was first released, and it's disappointing that there is no fix in sight. The only thing left for any of us to do is complain to the web masters of internet sites that are using Adobe Flash and insist that they use an open standards flash.
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Inappropriate?This happens on my system as well, XP SP3, Core2Duo T7300, 2gb ram, FF3.5 and Chrome 3.0.195. At least in Chrome I can end task Flash without closing any pages. Actually, Flash has crashed on it's own in chrome, I only had a few flash pages open as well. With previous Flash versions I've had over 30 youtube pages open at once with no issues.
I’m agitated
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Inappropriate?This happened to me as well. It took several days of trial and error, but it occurred to me that I had never installed the flash plugin for IE, only the FF version. So I installed BOTH the FF and IE flash packages, and voila! CPU runs at a normal speed now.
I’m relieved.
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Inappropriate?What is the "FF" version?
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Inappropriate?Eric, If you didn't have the IE flash plugin installed, you wouldn't experience the CPU issue. The CPU only goes haywire when a stupid Flash app is using it. And if it its not installed in IE you will be given a message telling you to install it.
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Inappropriate?Shirley - you can install it via either browser. But adobe has a separate download for IE. Both are installer packages. My CPU went haywire when using flash apps, or watching flash videos. After installing BOTH versions of the flash installer, (first the FF version that makes me add some adobe download manager plugin to FF before I can download it, then the IE version downloaded via filehippo) problem solved. I don't mean an adobe plugin (sorry, I know that's the word I used) - I mean the installer.
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Inappropriate?I still don't understand. In my situtation, (on two different computers) I uninstalled ALL adobe flash files with the tool from Adobe. It removes all the files so then if you want ot use IE your are prompted to install adobe flash player when you go to a website that has flash content. Same thing for Firefox or any browser for that matter. How do you get to the adobe download manager plugin for FF to download a plugin for IE?
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Inappropriate?@Shirley. Sorry, I suck at explaining things :(.
I uninstalled flash. Then went to adobe.com in FF to redownload the flash installer. Run the installer. Then go to http://www.filehippo.com/download_fla... and download the OTHER flash installer. As soon as this second flash installer finished, my cpu returned to nomal usage. I am very curious to know if this works for others as well. -
Sorry, I did exactly as you described and it didn't help.
For my "test" site to replicate this behavior, turn on Task Manager or some other CPU monitor software.
Go to www.mazdausa.com, then click on "Mazda 3 5Door". It will run a flash intro, every time I do this in either FF or IE, my CPU usage for the browser gets to at least 75%. This is my benchmark, I have issues at many other sites too, but I find it more consistent to test all the suggestions the same way. -
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Inappropriate?Bring on html5!
Problem is that flash was never made for the purpose of playing back videos. It's some weird perversion that it has become that way thanks to youtube et al. The code of silence protrayed by the Adobe guys probably means they are stumped, and a solution in the near future is unlikely.
Also, compared to a normal media player, flash does not "write" directly to video; it writes to the browser or OS, which then relays information to the screen. Because of this, the CPU has to do a lot of heavy lifting as there is minimal involvement by the video adapter / GPU.
In my opinion, if you're going to watch a video in HD, just make sure that it's the only thing you do, e.g. close all other windows. Otherwise, try a lower resolution.
If you have a newer browser version, youtube et al are adopting html5 movie playback as a replacement to flash. This is the nail in the coffin for flash playback and will probably come as a relief to Adobe, after all their video libraries weren't originally written by them and they're probably sick of supporting them.
I’m feeling your pain
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Inappropriate?For Firefox check out the Flashblock add-on
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Inappropriate?I had never had such issue with any Flash version before 10, even with adobe's. Now I have exactly that lousy sympton on every and each computer I've testified, be it Safari or Firefox on Mac OSX 10.5 or 10.6, Windows XP or Vista running it on Chrome, Firefox or IE, or Ubuntu 9.04 with its Firefox or Shiretoko. Granted, I haven't (yet) tried Opera or Konqueror, but I doubt it will do any better. This is really weird and highly frustrating.
There are plugin alternatives, I've tried gnash and swfdec before on my ubuntu FF, but oddly I can't find them now! My only option to skip this issue is running a Super Ubuntu Live CD, which comes with outdated flash. I still should try a regular Live CD, but those come with no flash and I'd have to hope for swfdec.
Thing is the alternatives fail at loading some pages... As someone mentioned before, bring on HTML5!
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I have read all over the Internet about people having this problem -- and there is no solution yet. I agree that the Adobe developers must be completely stumped. If they weren't, I'm sure they would concentrate some heavy effort in fixing the problem. They probably hired a bunch of developers over in India. My company did that and they are a bunch of the dumbest flucking idiots. Saving money at the cost of quality... it's the American way.
I’m annoyed
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SIDDHARTH2986 let me tell you before you start playing all the bullshit race card. I manage a datacenter with more than 2 petabytes of data. The system ran like clockwork and builds took 1-2 days in most cases. Now, with the cheap labor I was forced to offshore to Pune, India employees, our shit takes forever and a day to get done. ALSO, we have a bunch of tandem equipment that ran like clockwork until the same thing happened to the guys that manage that equipment. Upper management offshored their labor to India and once everything was fucked up, they tried to REHIRE the guys they fired and replaced with the Indian engineers. The guys did however, tell upper management to suck their sausages and offered to help for a rate of $10,000 per hour. It was classic. Don't get me wrong -- everywhere in the world has some smart people, but as far as the technology arena is concerned, the cheap Indian labor is exactly that -- cheap. Cheap pay, cheap skillset, etc. And by the way fucktard -- I'm paying them $750/month -- which is THREE TIMES a normal salary in India. It'd be like my paying $120K for an engineer over here. Don't give me the paltry salary bullshit. One of our guys bought a fucking brand new house after only working here for a year and a half -- yah he paid CASH for it. You're the one that doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about. -
Inappropriate?It started for me 3 days ago. Why now, what has changed ?
It was just after the big Tuesday updates from Microsoft, which included .Net update, but I don't see how this is relevant.
I can't watch youtube, I can't watch most video sites.
I'm mad.
And you should see the Firefox support site - most people are blaming Mozilla :-<<
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?No way it's not a problem with just Firefox. EVERY browser I've tried has the same problem. I've tried Chrome, Firefox, IE6, IE7, and IE8. They ALL peg the CPU and eat up hundreds of megs of RAM upon opening any flash object. This is on a desktop with 3 cores, 2GB 1033MHz RAM, and an nlited version of 2K3. It FLIES on anything but flash objects.
I’m disenchanged with flash
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This began as a firefox issue but now my flash crashes in Safari & Opera too... i have read after days of searching this issue for my Mac that the Flash update BROKE the player... is esp bad for me as i HAVE to use flash when i play live backgammon matches at a particular site... I AM DISGUSTED THAT ADOBE HAS YET TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS ISSUE PROPERLY MUCH LESS FIX IT... has cost me mega money!!!
From what i've found it is a redraw prob with flash so i u r opening new windows they either hang or are BLANK. Even if a page using flash is docked, it will affect any open web pages, regardless of browser, from reloading after 3-4 new flash links/frames/windows are opened.
GRRRRR
I am wondering if the new FF update released a few days ago helps? I am now paranoid about updating anything after this flash update screwed my whole MacBook up!
OH SORRY...forgot to mention the cpu prob which brought me here... my fan runs sooo high when using flash pages and gets SO HOT that it both burns my leg and shuts my whole Mac down. Not sure if my smcFanControl has helped or not.... -
Inappropriate?Jool I am pretty much the same way, I was fine until big Tuesday. I really feel like banging my head in the wall because I have tried everything it seems.
I’m pissed
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Inappropriate?The only way this will be solved is if Google (YouTube) decided to move to something else or threatened to do it. Adobe doesn't seem to care - this problem has been around a long time.
Not that divx is much better - I get 70% cpu if running divx inside firefox, but if I get the exact same video and run it outside the browser in VLC, it only takes 40%. So I can't tell if it is because of the browser or the add-on. I am going to try the same experiment with flv (flash) files.
But it has become impossible to watch videos. Some can be downloaded and watched in a separate player but not all.
I like Leo Laporte live video, but I can't watch it anymore (since last Thursday), because it takes 100% cpu, gets stuck, jumps etc.
I’m extremely frustrated
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I've had this problem running both IE and Firefox. After trying many combinations I've found one that works well. Using Firefox 3.5.3 WITHOUT Flash Player FF plug-in but WITH the IE Flash plug-in and running IE Tab 1.5.20090525. With this combination in an IE tab I am able to stream music and view Youtube videos without the CPU pegging at 100%. I uninstalled the Flash plug-in for Firefox along with all the old versions. Running Flash Player 10.0.22.87 for IE. Would be interested in hearing from someone else who can give this a try. Thanks. -
Ken, how did you manage to install flash player 10.0.22.87? When I try it, it says it's not the most current version, and won't let me continue installation. I don't know how does the installer obtain this information, because I've removed previous installations using adobe's uninstall utility, double checked traces of them in the registry and on my hdd, and also Zonealarm doesn't warn me about it trying to get web access. -
Inappropriate?Hi and thanks for the reply. I installed it awhile back - probably a few months now, and at that time it was probably the current version. I suggest trying with the current version and see how it works. I did uninstall all of the Flash player versions (I had several) before re-installing the IE Flash version. I stream music from Last.fm in an IE tab within Firefox w/o pegging CPU and I can run Youtube videos, though I have limited these so consider this test a bit unproven as I've "babied" my machine in this respect so as to get work done w/o the CPU issue.
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Inappropriate?Check this nonsense out thesun.co.uk 100% CPU with or without flash eventually stabilizes move cursor about 100% CPU !!!!!!
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WTF are you talking about? Can you please repost this with proper grammar so people can understand what you're saying? -
Yeah, what exactly does "with or without flash eventually stabilizes move cursor about 100% CPU !!!!!! " mean? Please enlighten us. -
Yeah, what exactly does "with or without flash eventually stabilizes move cursor about 100% CPU !!!!!! " mean? Please enlighten us. -
He appears to be saying that when he goes to www.thesun.co.uk, his CPU spikes to 100% even when he is not using Flash. He also seems to be saying that eventually the CPU comes down, but when he moves the cursor, it spikes again.
Although I agree that his post is hard to read, he highlights the fact that not all the complaints in this thread are attributable to Flash. Most of my Flash problems have resolved with an upgraded FIOS connection (from 15/2 to 25/15), although occasionally a poorly designed website will spike my CPU. -
Don't be ridiculous. ANYTIME you perform an action, the CPU spikes briefly to process the transaction. You don't have to take my word for it, open task manager and move your mouse around. It'll make the CPU active right away. If you move it around fast enough, you might even hit 100% CPU utilization. -
Don't be ridiculous. ANYTIME you perform an action, the CPU spikes briefly to process the transaction. You don't have to take my word for it, open task manager and move your mouse around. It'll make the CPU active right away. If you move it around fast enough, you might even hit 100% CPU utilization. -
Inappropriate?Great Article Go Apple!
http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/... -
yes but does not help us at alll... wish that apple did this no-compat thing for iphone just to require Adobe to help us with ignored flash probs esp on macs... -
Inappropriate?I would request that MATTHEW LAUN whom is categorized as COMPANY rep in this topic (and all ADOBE topics) would please remove his comment from the earlier feeds under this TOPIC & QUESTION as it appears it is being addressed by adobe seeing his link at the top of this page yet the answer he has linked to this problem is regarding AIR and NOT the same issue we are referring to...
Cmon Matt... remove yr participation from this as we need a real answer here & yr coment as a Customer was not only unrelated but is not from ADOBE & i want ADOBE to give this damned prob some attention...
!Thanks much and no offense intended to u...
I’m frustrated & pissed
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Inappropriate?Well done Rhonda you've interpreted correctly also happens on timesonline.co.uk, my theory is that there is software in all PC's some more than others that register the user's every cursor move that way they know the persons habits ie some adverts attract cursor movements more than others I'm not saying a click through I'm saying cursor hover marketing! Just in aptly attributable!
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Inappropriate?The problem with Adobe flash player is that it tries to do too many things - not just showing a video, but all sort of sophisticated flash objects.
This is why VLC needs less cpu.
What we need is a simple browser player that only shows videos, without funny stuff.
I’m pissed
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Inappropriate?had the high cpu problem in firefox and ie; i tried a couple of suggestions i saw in postings with little change. uninstalled flash player, then opened firefox and went to youtube; installed flash plugin when prompted. then opened ie and went to youtube, and installed flash when prompted. now both ie and firefox play flash videos fast and flawless, with little overall cpu usage. i also did the same thing on my laptop and in the same order; the results were the same and flash works properly in both browsers. both machines are single-core intel p4 @~2.6/2.8ghz; both have on-board video cards with video memory sharing. both machines have 512 ram.
note: i was having problems with ie running 100 percent cpu while just open on comcast homepage and no video running. now running about 15 percent with same page open.
1. uninstall flash player
2. install firefox plugin
3. install ie flash
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