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Ping.fm integration in Tweetie 2 for iPhone
Bring back the Ping.fm integration in Tweetie 2 for iPhone. This is important!
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From what I could tell, the *vast, vast* majority of users used Ping.fm in 1.x to sync their status to Facebook and MySpace.
Now, there are really nice, server-side solutions to doing this. MySpace recently launched theirs, and Facebook has a number of apps that allow this (and give you control over what gets cross-posted).
I'm a fan of moving as much of this kind of functionality out of clients and into the cloud. The very nature of mobile clients means that connections can be unreliable, so the more work can be done server side, on machines with blazing fast, low latency connections, the better :).
Tell me what you use it for, and if there's no good 'cloud' solution for it.
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Please restore Ping.fm integration and the dark theme to Tweetie 2.
Both of these were critical features for me, and until they return, my Tweetie 2 purchase is useless; I must continue to use the original version (which, luckily, I did not already delete).
I have personal reasons for requiring both of these features which I will explain, but a more objective argument is this: In all the public discussion leading up to the Tweetie 2 release, no mention was ever made of features being removed. Nor were the removed features mentioned on the Tweetie 2 product webpage*. Purchasers thus had no reason to expect that Tweetie 2 would be anything but an improved superset of the original Tweetie's functionality.
Had those Tweetie users who relied upon Ping.fm (or preferred the dark theme) been given this information prior to making their purchase decision, I suspect the current level of complaint would be far less. I certainly wouldn't have wasted my money by making a useless purchase. Although certainly an unintentional oversight (it's hard, from a developer's point of view, to always know which seemingly esoteric features are actually much-beloved) the result is a lot of unhappy upgraders.
Based upon a Twitter search for "ping tweetie" (and ignoring results where "ping" appears simply in a shortened URL) there are at least several hundred users who are disappointed about this omission. In my case it renders Tweetie 2 wholly useless, as I rely upon Ping.fm to broadcast my posts to readers on a wide variety of services, far more than simply Facebook or Myspace.
It is worth mentioning that I'm not upset - it's only a $2.99 loss, after all - but merely disappointed; I'm a longtime Tweetie fan (whose evangelism for the product has resulted in at least a couple dozen purchases) and I'd very much been looking forward to the elegant refinements of Tweetie 2.
Lastly, please also restore the dark theme. Much of my microblogging is done from nightclubs or at art events where a bright white cellphone screen is conspicuous and rude, even with the brightness turned all the way down. In such situations the dark theme was a godsend, allowing discreet tweeting without looking like "that guy". Or at least, looking a little less like "that guy".
Thanks for listening, and best wishes for continued success with Tweetie!
* Nor are they still, something you should probably correct.
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Inappropriate?I bought Tweetie because it had a Ping.Fm interface. Then I finally purchase it (version 2.0) and it's not there. So I won't be using Tweetie at all until it's back in there. It was one of the only iPhone apps that had a ping.fm automatic interface.
When will this be added again?
I’m thinking I wasted $2.99!
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Inappropriate?I agree, Ping.fm is very important and the fact that it was removed from the past version after a paid upgrade makes it a big deal. I think the most important thing is if, for whatever reason, it doesn't get included in the next free upgrade we know why. In any case as soon as possible I want to know if it will be included and if it will be I would like to know when that will be.
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Inappropriate?Tweetie 2 - I'm dating it.
Tweetie 2 with Ping.fm - I'll marry it!
Do it..please...soon!
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I just bought Echofon Pro and am now using it instead of Tweetie. It has Ping.FM integration and Push Notifications. Seems to be a good solution. Thanks Wick0r -
I also changed to Echofon Pro
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Likewise.
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Inappropriate?I'm really irritated that Tweetie 2 removed a feature that I used daily in Tweetie, and made me pay for it! The UI updates are nice, but I've had to completely re-think using Tweetie at all for my regular updates.
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Inappropriate?I too would definitely like to see Ping.fm support added to Tweetie 2 -
Inappropriate?From what I could tell, the *vast, vast* majority of users used Ping.fm in 1.x to sync their status to Facebook and MySpace.
Now, there are really nice, server-side solutions to doing this. MySpace recently launched theirs, and Facebook has a number of apps that allow this (and give you control over what gets cross-posted).
I'm a fan of moving as much of this kind of functionality out of clients and into the cloud. The very nature of mobile clients means that connections can be unreliable, so the more work can be done server side, on machines with blazing fast, low latency connections, the better :).
Tell me what you use it for, and if there's no good 'cloud' solution for it.
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Services like Ping.fm (hellotxt is another) do one important thing: allow users to choose what services they want to update. Each service has its own gateway. New services and abilities are added by Ping.fm - and the apps that use it get the benefits. It's a really deep service.
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I use it for automatically posting my links to delicious and my photos to flickr. Add in the custom URL feature and you can use it for just about anything.
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I use ping.fm to update Yammer, LinkedIn and Facebook. Ping.fm is by far the easiest way to do this.
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I'm using it mainly for facebook. I don't want to rely on facebook apps and there's not a single apps that works like ping.fm.
Ping.fm works well, and i've bought tweetie 1 mainly because it offered ping.fm integration.
My dream was that Tweetie 2 would have expanded integration with ping.fm, allowing to choose whether post to ping.fm or only to twitter. -
Not sure what you mean by server-side solution, but we are all server-side AND cloud based. Is that what you meant? A little confused here, so help me out if I misunderstood! Cheers.
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I used ping.fm in the original Tweetie to post to other networks, NOT Facebook or MySpace. Very disappointed that a decision has been taken to abandon it from an alleged understanding that the *vast* majority used it for one particular purpose. My view is that ping.fm is used for a multitude of different scenarios and not just one or two use cases.
All I can say is I hope you are listening to us users (which is great to hear!) and *please*, *please* bring ping.fm back.
Thanks.
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I think the other posts cover the variety of things for which people use Ping.FM. I personally use it to post to about 20 different services and won't use any client to make a tweet unless it posts to my Ping.FM account.
There are 3 points that I think Atebits needs to be aware of:
1) You never, never, never remove a feature from an upgrade. This is just unfaithful to the user base.
2) If we use some other "cloud service" as you suggest, then we wouldn't be using Tweetie to make our posts. Also, Tweetie doesn't offer any other method of linking a "cloud service" to Tweetie were we could use ping.fm and Tweetie, so we're confused about what you're talking about in your remarks.
3) There are currently very few iPhone apps that have ping.fm integration. The key feature in version 1 is that you just used the app and it automatically forwards your tweets to ping.fm, which then does whatever you have it setup to do. It was really slick and easy - even brilliant.
Ping.FM isn't used to sync status, it's used to simultaneously post a single tweet to multiple social networks and services. Ping.FM allows users to link to about 30 or 40 services. Ping.FM also provides URL shortening services and also now has tracking and analysis of shortened URLs, similar to bit.ly.
I'm afraid you missed the boat with your decision to remove the Ping.FM integration and now users will have to move to one of your competitor's iPhone apps to get ping.fm service.
One final note: the Ping.fm website was advertising Tweetie as a recommended iPhone client containing ping.fm integration. Now it's misleading.
I hope all this feedback is helpful. I'll continue to tweet this site out via another ping.fm interfaced application until we hear back from you on your decisions. We'd love to love Tweetie, but without ping.fm integration, it's just not usable other than as yet another twitter reader. No ping.fm user will send a tweet via Tweetie 2.
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Amen on all of your points Brent!
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there is NO WAY to post instantly from Twitter to Facebook fan pages other than Ping.fm
Could you recommend some of these "number of apps that allow this (and give you control over what gets cross-posted" that work on facebook fan pages??
There is an app called "Twitter to facebook pages" but it lags by 3 hours
There is a route to use yahoo pipes and RSS feeds and Notes and such but it's all a pain in the ass.
please check out the discussion tab on the facebook Twitter app.
Ping.fm was the best and almost only way to post from Twitter to facebook fan pages. Please bring it back. -
Inappropriate?I use Ping.fm to also send status updates to a Blogger account which I use to archive my posts. It's much easier to look up past posts with Blogger since Twitter doesn't provide an easy way to navigate through my timeline. I also use Ping.fm to update other sites that don't have server-side cloud based options. -
Inappropriate?I enjoy Ping.fm more for the picture pushing - pushing them to Flickr and Facebook, Tumblr
I also enjoy it updating my Tumblr, Facebook, Myspace, FriendFeed
I do not use a twitter client that doesn't use ping.fm!
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Inappropriate?I Concur. This is a Much Needed Feature! Id be much more apt to by Tweetie 2 if it had Ping.fm .
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Inappropriate?Without Ping.fm in Tweetie 2.0, I can not update the multiple archaic forms of blogging services and sharing sites (as well as newer, better sites like Flickr and Delicious) that my Boy Scouts of America troop uses to inform scouts and scout parents of upcoming events. One of the goals of my troop is to move forward into the 21st century by embracing new services and I, being a huge internet nerd (and Mac/iPhone fanboy and growing Cocoa dev), am spearheading this effort. I had used this with Tweetie 1 on my iPhone so that info could be posted straight from troop meetings, or even while at camps, to all the parents in the troop. The simple facts are these: Tweetie 2.0 is the best Twitter client for iPhone, Ping.fm updates a lot more than just Facebook and Myspace, and more integration is often better integration.
Tweetie 2.1?
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Inappropriate?I consider the absence of ping.fm to be a major deal breaker for me. Having shelled out 3 bucks for a new and improved app, should not give me a neutered tool. I often ping my tweets to other networks. There are tools that will allow me to do that. Please add it to Tweetie 2 on the iPhone.
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Inappropriate?Thought it through a bit, and I'm about to reverse myself.
Even though Ping.fm was available in Tweetie 1.x, I didn't use it. I wanted to focus on using - and interacting - with Twitter in that interface. Ping.fm is about transmitting updates, not interacting.
I generally use Ping.fm via SMS (simple, quick, no data access needed) or email (for sending photo updates to multiple services).
I certainly don't want EVERY tweet going to ALL services I have connected (which, I believe, was how it was in 1.x). Without a per-message option (and that means a user interface in Tweetie), I don't see the value of adding Ping.fm.
I’m indifferent
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Inappropriate?I liked how tweetie 1 handled ping.fm integration intelligently. Like when you reply to certain tweet it doesn't get cross posted. I also use it to post twitpic's to other social networks. Would be awesome to bring ping.fm integration back to tweetie 2. That & themes :)
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?I use ping.fm to share with much more than just Facebook and Twitter. Tweetie 1 was absolutely wonderful because it was one of the few, highly functional apps that allowed me to cross post to the numerous networks that I use to connect with people. Not everyone wants to use Facebook or Myspace. But they do use other networks. Ping.fm brings them together and Tweetie was a beautiful way to utilize that. Tweetie is no longer that app. Echofon is. I love Tweetie's interface and I want to love the app again.
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Inappropriate?The only reason I use Tweetie for the iPhone is because of Ping.fm. Ping.fm makes it to easy to update all my sites at once and with Tweetie 2, I am unable to update all my sites at once as it does not have ping.fm support. I have gone back to using Tweetie till ping.fm support it added. Tweetie 2 is ok till Ping.fm support is added.
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Inappropriate?It makes no sense to drop ping.fm. period. You add all kinds of services to the 2.0 version, and leave off ping.fm?
or just add the service of facebook?
killing me people!
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Inappropriate?Happy Tweetie 1 iPhone app buyer. Would be a much more happier Tweetie 2 owner... but you've not put the Ping.fm nummies in there.
So, I'll ask nicely, "Please add Ping.fm support to Tweetie2 update." Then I'll buy it PDQ.
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Inappropriate?I used ping.fm in the original Tweetie to post to other networks, NOT Facebook or MySpace. Very disappointed that a decision has been taken to abandon it from an alleged understanding that the *vast* majority used it for one particular purpose. My view is that ping.fm is used for a multitude of different scenarios and not just one or two use cases.
All I can say is I hope atebits is listening to us users (which is great to hear) and *please*, *please* bring ping.fm back.
Thanks.
Nick
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Inappropriate?The ping.fm integration was a major feature for me, and I just downgraded from v2 to v1 simply for that reason. All the new pretty doesn't impress me when a feature that I used all the time is _removed_ in an upgrade. While it was "only" $3, I'm a little frustrated that I paid for an app that I will not be using because of what is, for me, a major feature.
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Inappropriate?Please restore Ping.fm integration and the dark theme to Tweetie 2.
Both of these were critical features for me, and until they return, my Tweetie 2 purchase is useless; I must continue to use the original version (which, luckily, I did not already delete).
I have personal reasons for requiring both of these features which I will explain, but a more objective argument is this: In all the public discussion leading up to the Tweetie 2 release, no mention was ever made of features being removed. Nor were the removed features mentioned on the Tweetie 2 product webpage*. Purchasers thus had no reason to expect that Tweetie 2 would be anything but an improved superset of the original Tweetie's functionality.
Had those Tweetie users who relied upon Ping.fm (or preferred the dark theme) been given this information prior to making their purchase decision, I suspect the current level of complaint would be far less. I certainly wouldn't have wasted my money by making a useless purchase. Although certainly an unintentional oversight (it's hard, from a developer's point of view, to always know which seemingly esoteric features are actually much-beloved) the result is a lot of unhappy upgraders.
Based upon a Twitter search for "ping tweetie" (and ignoring results where "ping" appears simply in a shortened URL) there are at least several hundred users who are disappointed about this omission. In my case it renders Tweetie 2 wholly useless, as I rely upon Ping.fm to broadcast my posts to readers on a wide variety of services, far more than simply Facebook or Myspace.
It is worth mentioning that I'm not upset - it's only a $2.99 loss, after all - but merely disappointed; I'm a longtime Tweetie fan (whose evangelism for the product has resulted in at least a couple dozen purchases) and I'd very much been looking forward to the elegant refinements of Tweetie 2.
Lastly, please also restore the dark theme. Much of my microblogging is done from nightclubs or at art events where a bright white cellphone screen is conspicuous and rude, even with the brightness turned all the way down. In such situations the dark theme was a godsend, allowing discreet tweeting without looking like "that guy". Or at least, looking a little less like "that guy".
Thanks for listening, and best wishes for continued success with Tweetie!
* Nor are they still, something you should probably correct.
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Inappropriate?I am very tempted to give up Tweetie 2 to get Ping.fm integration back! How could they do such an idi*t thing? Is this a direct attack to Ping.fm? Or perhaps they're planning to launch an equivalent service? -
Inappropriate?While I didn't purchase it till tweetie 2 for the unofficial identi.ca support (yeah, I'm one of those "freedom-loving non-luddite hippie anarchists that pays for your software") and having ping.fm would be a great addition to tweetie.
Currently I just use ping.fm's mobile web app at http://www.ping.fm/iphone/. The problems with this site is it can be painfully slow to load if I'm on edge since it has to load all the UI elements each time I go to the page. Also the app itself doesn't feel as responsive as a native app could be.
Ping.fm is currently my primary way of posting messages (I just use tweetie to read and reply to people currently). My default post list includes: twitter, identi.ca, facebook, and delicious. It's very useful to post a message with a link and have it automatically get saved to delicious. -
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Inappropriate?I second this. I'm happy I found out before shelling out money for tweetie 2. Why would I pay more to get less?
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Inappropriate?I'm currently using echofon...I haven't found any "really nice, server-side solutions" that actually works.
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Inappropriate?I'm kinda bummed... I relied on the Ping.fm integration as well. I FIGURED that seeing that the it worked in a previous version and it was not mentioned that it was removed, that it would still be in the app. I would like my money back. I will gladly buy it again when the application is what I thought I was buying.
I’m bummed
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Inappropriate?Increasingly bothered that there's been no action on this from Atebits for over two weeks. Or even an announcement regarding future action.
There's really shouldn't be any debate here.
A feature was _removed_ between Tweetie 1 and Tweetie 2. You just don't do that. And if you do, you make sure that it's clearly documented _before_ customers who rely on that feature waste their money*.
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*The removal of Ping support was never mentioned in either the App Store or on the Tweetie 2 product page at Atebits. In fact, there is still no mention in either of these places. Even if Atebits isn't going to fix this mistake, they should at least take a few minutes, update the product page, and make sure more Ping.fm users don't waste their money.
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Inappropriate?It's all been said already I'm sure. I certainly don't have time to read all the other comments but to reply directly to what you said in your comment:
Ping.fm *IS* my cloud solution. It works perfectly and does everything I need. If its possible to support it in tweetie then I will literally never need anything else for my status needs. All the other 'cloud' solutions I've tried end up failing at various points of contact, and Ping.fm is the smoothest I've found. Support for it is 100% more important to me than url shortening apis, of which you support several.
Bring it back! Add it to the desktop app only for paid customers and you will sell AT LEAST one more copy, to this guy!
I’m wishing for this feature.
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Inappropriate?The continued lack of response from Atebits on this issue is disappointing, and not at all what I have come to expect from small, user-centric indie developers.
Tweetie 2 was a totally wasted purchase for me. Either restore the feature that I depended on (and whose removal you never announced) or refund my money.
But please, do -something- besides just ignoring this.
I’m hopeful atebits will choose to do the awesome thing
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Inappropriate?here's what i got from a feature request to atebits... the persons name was ash
"We'll keep that under consideration. Ping.fm doesn't really have a significant following, and as such it will probably be very low on our priorities."
well there ya go....
I’m sad i bought tweetie 2
