Ho could I account for 'work in progress'?
There is this annoying thing when you come to the end of the tax year, called 'work in progress'. I need to declare any work that we've done on any current projects, even if they haven't been invoiced or paid for. It's always a bit of a contentious issue, because it's hard to put a figure on how much of a particular contract has been completed before April 5, but the taxman wants you to do it.
What we need to do is account for a percentage of fees inside this tax year, without an invoice against it. At the moment there isn't any way that we can do this, and it may well be too much to expect from FreeAgent, but I thought I'd ask...
Wolf.
What we need to do is account for a percentage of fees inside this tax year, without an invoice against it. At the moment there isn't any way that we can do this, and it may well be too much to expect from FreeAgent, but I thought I'd ask...
Wolf.
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Inappropriate?If you track time on your projects, how about using the 'Project unbilled time and expenses' figures from the home page? - this represents exactly the work done which has not yet been invoiced.
We could explicitly include this in the 'balance sheet' in the future?
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Inappropriate?First of all, I clearly need to learn ho to spell my post titles properly.
Yes, I could use the time tracking as you suggest, just to keep a record of the time. The main thing is the balance sheet though, because that 'income' needs to be included in the tax calculation.
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Inappropriate?I'm not sure about that - your 'income' is surely based on invoices issued, but I can see that from a balance sheet point of view it's important to represent this...
I'll have bit more of a dig around about this; it's something I've been aware we need to resolve for a little while now. -
Inappropriate?Apparently not:
"A change in accounting practice means that where you have a service contract in progress at the end of your accounting period, your accounts must include a proportion of the contract income – including your profits – corresponding to the stage of completion of the contract. For example, if the contract is 60% complete, then 60% of the income must normally be included in your accounts, even if you cannot bill it yet.
The change was imposed by the Accounting Standards Board rather than through a change in tax legislation. But HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has said that it expects all businesses to adopt the new practice, which goes by the title UITF 40, for periods ending after 22 June 2005. This will generally result in a one-off ‘catching-up’ tax charge in the tax year in which that accounting period ends – 2005/06 or 2006/07. For some businesses, this extra tax could be 50% or more of their normal tax bill, but most businesses will be able to pay it over three to six years.
When UITF 40 was first announced, many people thought it only really covered accountants and solicitors. It has since become clear that many other business sectors will be affected if they perform service contracts over a period of time. For example doctors, dentists, architects, builders, letting agents, independent financial advisers, IT consultants, even farmers may have to recognise some of their income at an earlier stage. What is more, the new practice applies to limited companies as well as partnerships and sole traders. " -
Inappropriate?This may be too simple but the easiest way to do this would be to calculate the value of the work in progress (WIP) outside FAC and then introduce it at the year end by crediting an income account and debiting WIP to the balance sheet as a current asset.
Depending how involve/complicated you want it you could then at the beginning of the following year reverse the entry or continue to show it as WIP & adjust it monthly/quarterly (but be careful with leaving it unadjusted too long as it may distort the profits).
I’m happy explaining tax.
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Inappropriate?We could certainly generate a value for WiP from the unbilled time and expenses at any given date. This doesn't represent WiP against fixed-price contracts if time is not being tracked against some estimate, though. Or what if the time spent is over or under the estimated or contracted amount? Tricky.
Anyway, we'll have a bit of a think about how best to bring this in. As you say, Stuart, it may well be that a current asset debit/income credit will be the way to go. Could we not reverse each element of WiP as it's actually billed?
I’m happy when someone else is explaining tax.
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Inappropriate?@Ed, My own view is the more complicated (automated?) the calculation of WIP becomes the more chance there is of errors.
I'm guessing that WIP is only important at the year end.
If it's constantly being calculated & updated some of the profit each month will be unbilled work. It's bad enough to suffer a loss after the work has been invoiced but the client decided not to pay that amount. This is introducing another uncertainty.
Why not allow the information to be extracted which will allow a manual & hopefully considered calculation of WIP!? The figure could then be entered at the year end and reversed on day one of the new year.
I’m all for simplicity!
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Inappropriate?We could certainly make that information available, but we would like to generate a good year-end adjustment for revenue calculation purposes and so that we can get the tax right.
That's what we'll plan to do...
We do want to get closer to 99% quality nirvana, y'know!
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Wolf,
Sorry it's been a little while to get to this.
What the accountants we know seem to do is to find the invoices which relate to work done partly in one accounting period but dated in another, and split the income across the periods (as 'accruals' or 'prepayments').
Since it's all done historically (normally only needs to be considered a least 6-months after the year end for either income or corporation tax) we don't need to look at timeslips etc. It's all in the invoices.
We could easily automate this, for example by assuming the invoice date itself is the 'end of work' date and allowing you to specify a start date. Or by looking at the included timeslips and using those dates.
As Stuart identifies, we could then journal the WiP figure (between a WiP capital account and the Sales account, right Stuart?) at the end of the period, reversing on the first day of the next. Or we could just split the invoice numbers according to the specified fraction of work in each period.
Sorry to get technical, but does the basic premise sound OK?
(manual journal entries coming in the next couple of weeks, for those so inclined).
I’m optimistic.
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Inappropriate?First the gobbledegook!
1. WIP is not an accrual or a prepayment. It should be a separate current asset.
2. I would tend to show the WIP separately on the P&L account rather than add it to sales.
Then the surprise:
The basic premise is fine!
I’m excited about businesses doing their bookkeeping
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Inappropriate?I thought I'd resurrect this thread, and give people a heads-up.
In previous years I only booked revenue when I actually raised an invoice, so if I did some work at the end of one company year and then raised the invoice at the beginning of the last year, the revenue counted against the later year. This seemed reasonable to me and my accountant was fine with it.
For the year just gone my accountant has just told me that the revenue are cracking down on this and that I now needed to provide a Work In Progress amount, so that I account for revenue when I do the work, rather then when I invoice for it, so that I pay more tax earlier.
Personally, I think it stinks - having to book revenue and pay tax on work you haven't even invoiced for, let alone received the money for.
But if this is what we have to do, shouldn't the balance sheet in FreeAgent have a line that says: "work done but not yet invoiced" - it can pull this figure from the Time section?
I thought it might be worth moving this up the priority list if the W.I.P. calculation is getting more important to HMRC.
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Inappropriate?Whatever is decided I would still recommend this approach:
Make sure you think about the value of the WIP and the figure which appears in the final accounts is a considered calculation of the value of the WIP and not just a calculation based on hours multiplied by hourly rate?
Your accountants should be helping you arrive at the correct value not just accepting the figure you give them. After all it may be too high! -
I was just asked to say what value of work had been done which hadn't been invoiced yet. To be honest, I thought multiplying rate by time *was* a considered calculation of the WIP. What other method could be used?
If it was up to me, I wouldn't bother with WIP and I'd only book revenue when it's invoiced, but it doesn't look like I've got a choice!
Shouldn't free agent have some method for calculating the WIP at any point in time and including that in the balance sheet and profits? Or if there several suitable methods could the user pick what they want in the settings? -
Inappropriate?WIP can be complicated. What I wanted to point out was that it isn't always hours x rate.
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