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A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?
Problem with a hubdub representative (super user) cursing, making accusations without evidence, and making bigoted sexual orientation slurs. See comments #14, 23 & 31 of the following question : http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_B...
If Hubdub is going to allow its representatives to act this way, then it is no place for me.
If Hubdub is going to allow its representatives to act this way, then it is no place for me.
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Hello Everyone
Well, it's taken me a while to catch up on all this impassioned commenting and I am truly sad to see that things have spiralled downwards into such personal and embittered attacks.
It is clear that the question should have been voided. It may have helped if someone had flagged the question at some point (it received no flags at any point). There have also been lessons learned about dealing with different currencies. I will consider amending the rules if we think it is necessary.
I'm not going to lower myself to discussing the rights and wrongs of who called whom which name and what that name actually means. Frankly, I spend more than enough time refereeing between my children, I'm not about to start doing the same thing here.
To the more pressing issue... the responsbilities of a Super User. Yes, with the rights come responsibilities. And yes, we thought very carefully before picking the current Super Users, and yes we did choose them, amongst other reasons, because we felt that they would give a balanced view and judgement. We did not, however, ask them to be "representatives" of Hubdub, nor have they signed any contract with us. They are simply enthusiastic users with the ability to Suspend questions. The "responsibility" is that they will help in policing the game. So far they have all been doing an outstanding job. We do not expect Super Users to react in the same manner as Admins - they are not being paid and are doing it for the love of the game.
The Super User concept is obviously beta, and we are, as always, open to suggestions on how we can improve things, so all genuine suggestions will be taken on board. If you all have any thoughts or ideas on how best to improve the concept, then I suggest opening a new thread here (and doing it without the flamewars please. Life is too short).
Lesley.
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That solves it for me. It has been fun. Hope everyone enjoys themselves. Goodbye.
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Inappropriate?The make one thing clear: In a role as so called "Super User" I am not a representative of HUBDUB
Neither is any of the other Super Users.
We got a badge because they thought we were reasonable players of the game.
Please read this, epicur:
http://www.hubdub.com/public/help#sup...
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Inappropriate?Kruijs. I just read your link and it sure sounds like you represent Hubdub in a way. Words and phrases such as "trust" , "Users must be seen to be responsible", "provide intelligent, balanced judgements", and IMPORTANTLY - "Keep an eye on the comments for inappropriateness and problems, reporting or resolving them as necessary."
You may not be an administrator, but you do represent the site in a way.
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Inappropriate?This is what a 'Drama Queen' is:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drama%20queen&r=f
Sorry epicur. I didn't realize you were sensitive about your sexual orientation.
Thats not what I meant.
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Inappropriate?You can't even apologize without adding another attack. This isn't about whether I'm sensitive about my sexual orientation, I'm not. This is about a person that hubdub trusts acting this way.2 Comments Add a comment
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Suggesting that I made comment regarding sexual orientation is just more evidence to me that it is entirely in your character to distort the facts. -
Try calling a closeted homosexual (or for that matter a burly hetrosexual guy to his face) a "queen" or in this case "drama queen" and see how they react.
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Inappropriate?I'm not sure what to say... I feel we are representatives and this seems irresponsible, with power comes responsibility.
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Inappropriate?me too
super users should act in the same matter that administrators should or else they should be removed from their duties
I’m unsure
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Inappropriate?epicur,
because you just read the Hubdub description about Super Users, I assume that you did not have read it before and so you used the term without knowledge of its meaning until now.
anyway don't you think we Super Users (and I mean mork too) tried to do "Keep an eye on the comments for inappropriateness and problems, reporting or resolving them as necessary" in this case?
unfortunately it got out of hand somehow ...
first, you posted a comment because of the incorrect settlement of the question. Comment #9. The question had been re-settled in the mean time.
There was a discussion about that and how that could happen.
That seemed to be not enough for you as you came along and posted comment #17+#18, directly offending mork along with a clearly incorrect interpretation of the fine. (followed by #19+#20).
mork conceded as a response to those (and to issues raised in the discussion) in comment #23+#26
it was enough at that point actually - but not for you. you did not show any willingness along the discussion to make concessions, have an understanding, or to get to a compromise. In this way you looked very aggressive to me, and I assume to others too. This impression is underlined by you starting this thread, about the role of a Super User - even without knowledge of what a Super User is by the definition of HubDub.
PS many people have posted in the meantime while I've been typing this.3 Comments Add a comment
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kruijs - You and mork (along with mork cursing) called me a nitpicker and attacked my common sense before comment 17 and 18.
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I did not attack YOUR common sense (#13). Nevertheless I apologized for you feeling offended by my post (#24).
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Common sense' is mentioned in the hubdub guidelines and rules and this is the context. It was not a personal attack
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Inappropriate?I can't speak for another super user. I can say that this question seemed very specific and given the limited background should have been settled as a NO. Common sense would lead me to believe that if a dollar amount is given in us dollars and the fine isn't that amount, then it is a NO. Were the starting odds off, maybe. I think what we had is a question that should have been voided before settlement.2 Comments Add a comment
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Do you realize it is only because of a variance in currency exchange rate, from creation to settlement that makes this question settle as 'no'? I agree it should have been or should become void.
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The initial odds of 80% Yes should have been 5% Yes if currency rates really mattered to this question.
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Inappropriate?I for my part have said what is my opinion on both the question and it's issues and about how the conversation between people worked in this context.
I feel the conversation has left a reasonable level of arguing and tends to get more like a personal thing.
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Inappropriate?kruijs I read about the super user before. I didn't remember every detail from skimming it from whenever they added this feature. You should clearly state in your comment that you have been a part of this argument. You are not an unbiased individual just coming to this conversation. What about the cursing? What about the accusations without evidence? Either way, a representative of hubdub has to act better then this.6 Comments Add a comment
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"The make one thing clear: In a role as so called "Super User" I am not a representative of HUBDUB" is my first reply in this thread.
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Kruijs, you can claim anything you want, but the perception of your representing hubdub in some way is there.
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I just wanted to say that I DID CLEARLY STATE in my comment that I AM "part of this argument".
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Oh, in case you meant the comments on Hubdub: Did you notice that little "s" badge along with my username? Sure you did. So do others.
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You did not state clearly that we (epicur and kruijs) were directly arguing in the comment section of the Bardot question before this forum thread.
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right, but you put a link to it here, and I think, one who is interested in this topic will read the comments first. well, actually I just hope so.
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Inappropriate?I was out of line.
If epicur had not started that thread with "Here we go again." I probably would not have reacted the way I did.
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I accept your apology, I still feel Hubdub needs to comment on this though.
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Inappropriate?I have to agree with Krujis. I do not consider myself and am not a representative of Hubdub or Hubdub.com.
I’m indifferent
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Well maybe Hubdub needs to clarify, because I see an amount of responsibility that they have given you.
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then ask to have your title of super user removed
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no, they did not give us any responsibility. at best, they expect some assistance in running the game. epicur, would you please read the
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I read it enough. Now is the time for interpretation from an administrator.
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I do not have an agreement with hubdub.com and the title is that of a user.
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if we point you at a misunderstanding, epicur, and you refuse to read the argument, that's ignorant. but feel free to get an opinion from the admins.
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Kruijs, you didn't point to a disagreement. All you said was I should re-read it. I'm saying I don't need to read it again because I know what it says. We disagree on interpretation. My rereading it will not help. And by the way, saying that I'm doing something ignorant is calling me ignorant. Can you understand that?
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Yes, I do understand and it was my intention.
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The definition of ignorant is 'not having the information' The bardot verdict was clearly split into two parts. One part fine and one part damages. Throughout the thread you were trying to convince us that the damages should be considered part of the fine. To suggest this is absurd and you clearly 'don't have the information'.
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Inappropriate?"no shit" as a reply is not "cursing"
"drama queen" is not a "bigoted sexual orientation slur"
They are slang terms, but in neither case do they have the intent you are attributing to them.
"making accusations without evidence" - Well, I would say he was suggesting that your intent towards the question was not entirely in keeping with the spirit of the game. While, of course, he has no evidence of your inner state regarding the decisions you made when predicting on the question, your public statements are available. The insistence on re-settling a question based on a technicality (which goes against a common sense interpretation of the question) does suggest you are more concerned with the profits than the intent of the question (after all, it was mork's question, and his comments are highly relevant to the discussion, not to just be blown off as irrelevant). Finally, your unwillingness to consider seriously that your interpretation of the question would mean the initial odds of the question were horrendously wrong (and thus subject to voiding) does reveal that your aim in the discussion was not to get a fair ruling, but simply one that benefited you.
I don't see that the issues you are raising about the particular superuser are of more than minor concern. Could he have expressed himself better? Probably. Couldn't we all? Couldn't you? Did he abuse his authority in this case? Not at all.
What exactly are superusers? That may well be a discussion that needs to occur. Remember the plan is to extend the number of them, so it's not just a question of the few currently operating. They are players first, and it is in the context of their familiarity with the site, and their actions as regular players that they were chosen. In other words, it's a bit of the lunatics helping to run the asylum.
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Inappropriate?So now we have super user Kruijs and Mork calling me ignorant (see comments in previous post). I just want to be sure I understand you both correctly. This is so black and white for you two that I'm clearly ignorant. Oh well, I guess I just have to wait for an administrator to sort this out.
I’m angry
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I am ignorant of many things and have absolutely no problem admitting it.
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I feel you are using overreaction in an attempt to add weight to your argument.
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Inappropriate?Infernal, I disagree with you.
What ever anyone wants to attribute to the cursing and the drama queen comment is opinion (search George Carlin's seven dirty words for a ruling for cursing). Either way the drama queen is a personal attack. A super user should not be personally attacking someone in the comments. They are supposed to : "Keep an eye on the comments for inappropriateness and problems, reporting or resolving them as necessary." see super user line 4 section D.
Anyway, I say it is time for us to wait for this super user role to be sorted out by an administrator before we make this trail too long to follow.3 Comments Add a comment
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I find George Carlin offensive.
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george carlin still does college shows and he is as current and cutting as ever. best album he ever did was "toledo windowbox"
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Okay, I'll concede. I'm sorry that you felt personally attacked. There should be no place for personal attacks...or cursing...by anyone here, let alone those who have accepted responsibilities for the site. I do understand why that upset you, For the record though, I still take issue with the bigot comment. "You're being a drama queen" is usually a comment meant merely to say, "you are grossly overreacting." I don't consider that to be a personal attack, and believe this is just a misunderstanding.
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Inappropriate?I agree that superusers, if they are to be settling markets and watching for innappropriate postings, should be mindful to be respectful of other users for the sake of the integrity of the site, just as the administrators are. You are correct in that, epicur.
As for the vulgar language, it probably was innappopriate. However, I did read mork's comment history, and it seems extremely out of character for him. He was clearly insited. Still unnecessary, but I'm going to cut him some slack, because it is absolutely impossible for me to take your argument seriously based on your other two accusations.
Webster Dictionary:
drama queen - "a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions."
Encarta:
drama queen - "somebody who likes to make a drama out of a situation by acting in an emotional way."
Hhhhmm...I can't find a definition anywhere on the internet even refers to sexual orientation a little bit. Please explain to me how calling you a drama queen should automatically be deemed a bigoted remark about your sexual orientation? I don't believe for one second that mork intended to imply anything about your orientation with that remark, and I don't believe that any reasonable person would. This term is VERY commonly used for people of both genders and all sexual orientations, and YOU have the nerve to acuse HIM of making accusations without evidence?? Give me a break. In fact, by the above definitions, all this complaint has done is prove the drama queen comment correct.
Maybe mork should have kept his cool and chosen some more respectful and professional words over the "vulgar" ones. You might have had a legitimate complaint if you had left it at that, but you lost all credibility when you went overboard with other two complaints. It's petty to slander someone like that over something so silly...you do know the "money" is pretend, right?
I’m hoping thatthe admins don't take this too seriously.
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Well in my circles, calling someone a drama queen is calling them a mincing / flaming homosexual. Different cultures different interpretations. Either way, a representative of hubdub should not be calling me this or anything else personal.
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Maybe you should hang out in nicer circles. The term may be used for a "flaming homosexual," but like I said, it is VERY commonly used to refer to ANYONE who is being melodramatic. That is its root, and that is how I have almost exclusively heard it used. Culture aside, the matter is one of intent. Since there the discussion had nothing to do with sexual orientation, and since mork has no way of knowing your sexual orientation, I see no evidence that he was using it to imply anything. As I said, I don't think any reasonable person would. You are making a mountain out of a molehill in an attempt to make someone look bad. It's juvenile.
Oh dear...now I'm guilty of age discrimination. There goes my shot at becoming a superuser. Shucks, I was really looking forward to it too. That little "s" icon make it so worth taking this sort of flack from all the sore losers. I'm sure the site would be fun for me. -
There's a further sense to "drama queen": someone who gets their own way by creating loud protestations of wounded indignation, when in fact there is no cause for such behaviour. The original settlement of the question should have stood, and this thread seen for what it actually is.
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Inappropriate?the admins should take it very seriously. giving the inmates the keys to the asylum pharmacy also comes with resposibilities
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Inappropriate?I agree with you meandering...as I said...about the cursing. However, the accusation that his remark was bigoted is ridiculous, and should absolutely not be taken seriously. It wasn't professional conduct, and if the admins choose to take the "superuser" status away as a result of that, then so be it. I feel okay about that. However, for someone to accuse a person of being bigoted without evidence, while at the same time crying that accusations toward him lacked evidence is hypocritical. I would be angry if someone said the same about based on something so flimsy. Like I said, I punched "drama queen" into yahoo and found not one reference to sexual orientation in the results. With all the smut online, it this were the accepted usage, I would expect to see it all over. This is a matter of sour grapes. That was my point. It's unfair to make such a loaded accusation wihout a more solid basis. That is what I do not believe should be taked seriosly. I think I was quite clear at the beginning of my first post, that I agree there should be a standard. Superusers should behave professionally even though they perform the service for free. If I believed for one second that this was the point epicur was trying to make, then I would support him 100%. However, as I also said, he lost a lot of credibility by taking it as far as he did. It sounds to me that his point is merely to make someone look bad because he didn't like how the question was settled. That's no excuse to slander someone this way. It's a serious accusation that he is making...with no good foundation...and THAT should be taken seriously as well.
I’m feeling misunderstood.
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Terminology of homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Also, some recommend that the terms homosexual and homosexuality be avoided ..... Drama queen, gay men given to melodramatics; Gym queen, gay men given to ...
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Good for you...and how long did that take...and wikipedia which anyone can write and/or edit. My point was and is...context matters. It was big of mork to apologize despite the loaded accusation against him. Too bad we can't all be as openminded and reasonable. Context was, I believe, to imply that you were overreacting...the MORE accepted usage to begin with. As I also said, I believe it was a misunderstanding, and to acknowledge that and apologize takes character. I've said my peace, I have no horse in this race, I'm done with the conversation now. Good night, all.
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Inappropriate?I will refrain from posting my thoughts here (and I have many) and just remind everyone that the admins are all tucked up safely in their beds completely unaware of the drama transpiring across the ocean. It will likely be quite a while before there will be an official response to this thread.
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Inappropriate?somebody phone lesley and tell her to wake nigel up
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Inappropriate?Just spoke to nigel through IM, he's on business in London (trying to get investors to invest in HubDub), he asked Lesley to get on it, we should hear from her soon, just remember its almost midnight there!
I’m confident this will get sorted
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Inappropriate?Hello Everyone
Well, it's taken me a while to catch up on all this impassioned commenting and I am truly sad to see that things have spiralled downwards into such personal and embittered attacks.
It is clear that the question should have been voided. It may have helped if someone had flagged the question at some point (it received no flags at any point). There have also been lessons learned about dealing with different currencies. I will consider amending the rules if we think it is necessary.
I'm not going to lower myself to discussing the rights and wrongs of who called whom which name and what that name actually means. Frankly, I spend more than enough time refereeing between my children, I'm not about to start doing the same thing here.
To the more pressing issue... the responsbilities of a Super User. Yes, with the rights come responsibilities. And yes, we thought very carefully before picking the current Super Users, and yes we did choose them, amongst other reasons, because we felt that they would give a balanced view and judgement. We did not, however, ask them to be "representatives" of Hubdub, nor have they signed any contract with us. They are simply enthusiastic users with the ability to Suspend questions. The "responsibility" is that they will help in policing the game. So far they have all been doing an outstanding job. We do not expect Super Users to react in the same manner as Admins - they are not being paid and are doing it for the love of the game.
The Super User concept is obviously beta, and we are, as always, open to suggestions on how we can improve things, so all genuine suggestions will be taken on board. If you all have any thoughts or ideas on how best to improve the concept, then I suggest opening a new thread here (and doing it without the flamewars please. Life is too short).
Lesley.
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Yes. Questions should have any currency references tied to the location in which a payment would be made.
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Inappropriate?That solves it for me. It has been fun. Hope everyone enjoys themselves. Goodbye.
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Inappropriate?Wow, I feel like mom had to step in and decide which kid gets to play with the new toy, all in all neither kid gets the toy and both learn not to bother mom in the future.
Thanks Lesley for stepping in, you deserve props for the wisdom of Solomon.
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Just what I thought :)
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Inappropriate?I see issues on both sides of this ... well let's be polite and call it a debate.
Cursing in the comments is serious, though I think the specific terms mork used are pretty innocuous. BTW, I don't think George Carlin qualifies as a respected authority on what is, and is not, cursing.
I think that on both sides there were accusations and insinuations made about the motives of others that were obviously not based on evidence, but since that particular sword cut in both directions, I consider it moot.
Also, I have to agree with smidge76 that insinuating that mork's use of the term "drama queen" could be interpreted as, "making bigoted sexual orientation slurs", goes beyond the bounds of credibilty. Even if, as epicur claims, "Well in my circles, calling someone a drama queen is calling them a mincing / flaming homosexual", how would there have been any way for mork to know that? Cultural relativism aside epicur, you should at least been aware of the general usage of the term, or been prepared to research it prior to making your claim of victimization.
Lastly, I agree that we super users are not "representatives" of Hubdub per sé, but I do feel we have a responsibility, greater than that of the average user, to participate on Hubdub in a manner that exemplifies its potential.
One of the thing that initially attracted me to Hubdub was the civility of the community, though I understand that as the community expands there are going to be controversies, I'd like to hope that Hubdub will remain a remarkably civil online community. There were numerous comments by the principals, in both the question comments and here, to the effect of, "I'm done let's move on". So I recommend everyone take a deep breath and move on, it's a game, it's supposed to be fun!
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Inappropriate?i think that all super users should have to sign an agreement/contract of sorts before they get all these powers and if they disobey any of this contract then their superness gets removed
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Inappropriate?Oh, I thought I was done here for the night, but since my e-mail box was full of responses, I do think I'll put my two cents in about the resolution. I agree averageamerican in terms of civility. I don't think mork's comments rise to the level of test case here. I know others disagree, but I still believe it was blown way out of proportion. I do want to say though that I understand that super users are not compensated and are doing their job to help make the site better. I really appreciate it, and don't want them to be subjected to so much criticism that it takes the fun out of the site for them. I wouldn't want to devote the time to the task, so I sincerely do mean it when I say it's appreciated. I certainly don't expect them to behave the same way as the admins, and didn't mean to imply that. I did, however, mean what I said about professaionalism. They may not represent hubdub, but if they are settling questions and such, they will be part of the face of hubdub. Now, I want to make it very clear that I am NOT referring to what occurred between mork and epicur when I say this. However, I want to say that, just because they aren't paid, does not mean that I want a super user, for example, cussing me out when I have a dispute over how a question is settled (not what happened in this case, just an example). So, let's not imply that there are no standards. That said, I agree that so far they are doing a great job, and have no beef with any of them. I think it would be condescending to ask anyone to sign a "contract," common sense can rule. I also don't believe that they should be subjected to public attacks just because they are super users...especially when, as in this case, they are responding as acting user of the site, and not fulfilling an official responsibility. I just wish people would keep things in perspective. Now I am done. Life is too short, and "So You Think You Can Dance" is on. Happy hubdubbing, everyone.
I’m confident in the discretion of the admins.
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Inappropriate?Just one quick clarification to smidge76's last post. At this point in time the only super power that Hubdub super users have is to suspend questions. We are not able to settle questions.3 Comments Add a comment
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Just to clarify, settling markets has been mentioned as a possible super power in the future, after the "beta" period. Regardless of what function they are performing, I would they would treat other users respectfully when there is a disagreement. As I've metioned, I have no issues with any one of them, and think the admins have been very judicious in their selections. I think things were blown out of proportion today. We should all keep in mind that a) "super users" are not "super human," and that b) respect is a two-way street, and they also deserve to be treated fairly.
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wow.havent seen a thread like this in a while..superuser or not this is for fake money so i have never understood y things get so personal..so many questions get settled both ways and this is one of the reasons y..some1 protecting their interests making enough of an argument to create a 2 way settlement...i had no money on this but if there was a specific amount stated and that specific amount wasnt paid y was a yes settlement used..from what i gather it was some kind of conversion thing but to me thats like asking will big brown win by 5 lengths but he wins by 4 and we say yes because its the spirit of the question or it wasnt converted to metric for other countries but thats just my opinion..regardless there will be problems with superusers because people will suspect users who can do things others cant but from what ive seen they look like they r trying..and the site does need more eyes..5-10 admin for 7000 some odd people in different time zones is too much i think without help
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I don't believe that anyone was claiming an abuse of "super powers." It was about one individual feeling another's language/comments were innappropriate. I was going to clarify further, but frankly, I'm tired, and can't get a clear thought out. I've become far more vested in this topic that I had intended to anyway. For the record, I think the super user idea is a good one. This is precisely why I don't want them getting so much grief that it becomes no longer worth the hassle. I was merely pointing out, above, that there could be circumstances under which there are legitimate complaints, particularly, if the admins do decide to expand the system. I thought I clearly pointed out that my example was hypothetical, and had nothing to do with what had occurred here, but perhaps I was less clear than I had hoped.
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Inappropriate?woohoo, i can't wait for a super user to have a nuclear meltdown online, and one will sooner or later, if admin does not have very clear and concise definition of responsible behaviour then we gonna be back to the inmates having the keys to the asylim's pharmacy
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my money's on jenniandboys! just think, our own britney!
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WHAT THE !
I'M SO UPSET THAT I FEEL COMPELLED TO DIVORCE TRI AND SHAVE OFF ALL MY HAIR!!!
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Inappropriate?I still can't believe the negativity against the super users... we're volunteering our time to make the site better... but whatever, for me just knowing I'm doing good is enough of a reward.1 Comment Add a comment
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and that skipper is a sign of integrity, kudos to you
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Inappropriate?meanderingsearcher, thank you for your confidence in us, hubdub, and yourself. comments like yours are really helpful making things better.
but one thing: what could a nuclear meltdown look like involving a super user? And another question: why are you acting hostile against super users anyway? we've had fun together in the past. you, me, the others. Why can't we have fun together since some of us have an "s" badge at their names? really, not much has changed since then - we're all still enjoying hudbub without any retentions. playing as we played it before, commenting on questions, reading news stories, investigating topics of interest, flagging inappropriately made questions; anything we ambitious hudbubbers did before.1 Comment Add a comment
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i'm not upset with anyone. just found this thread interesting. this is a study in the evolution of a social site with a competitive edge. one of the combatants listed his mood as indiffernet after a comment. i found this interesting as i found it to be a sign that someone who had drawn the respect of the admins would dismiss any concern with such a cavilier attitude. i find the superuser concept to be a very good idea and commend those that have achieved this rank, but, there has been noted meltdowns by various users in the past and there will be meltdowns in the future. i foresee a time when a current or future hubdubber questions the integrity of a superuser and the hoedown will begin again. even if the superuser and hubdubber agree that one or the other were right or wrong it will start as comment that is taken in the wrong way.
in reading your question again, i also note that you are defending the superuser concept by questioning why i am acting hostile. this has given me a new thread to follow; will the concept of "superuser" lead to class distinction amongs users? with a post-analysis question; could hubdub have chosen a better title for recognition of dedicated hubdubbers that would not have inferred superiority?
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Inappropriate?You made a good point, meanderdings, the title of the badge. "Super" user sounds like "superior user", better than the plebs. which we certainly aren't.
I had the impression that you already saw it that way - thanks, for clarifying.
Maybe you for your part have the impression some of us think/behave that way. this is certainly not the case. None of us thinks that way. Really, none of us. -
Inappropriate?Myself, I am Really Really Proud of my Humility... j/k ;)
In all seriousness, I appreciate the contributions everyone has made to this page.
The hubdub has had a surprisingly civil community in my opinion and the comments pages are often a very good indication of how intelligent the community is as a whole.
I regret any comments I made that did not live up to a far better standard which the community has established.
I see the work the superusers are doing and think the positive impact it has had on making the site run smoother is considerable. I am actually blown away by the amount of effort everyone is putting in voluntarily. My contributions have been fractional of what the other superusers are contributing.
The Hubdub enthusiasm Lesley speaks of is alive and from watching the activities of the other super users I know it is their motivating factor. I see how much effort goes into keeping an eye on the politics and sports categories in particular. It is impressive.
I hope no-one else was offended by my regretable wording epicur speaks of. If It is you, please accept my appology now.
Sincerely ,
mork
I’m thankful
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This solves the problem
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I'd like to point out that Hubdub enthusiasm is not limited to the super-users, and I cite this thread as evidence. It might not be the most polite debate in Hubdub history, but I don't think anyone could question the enthusiasm that was on display 8^)
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You are absolutely correct AAA. The 24hr pulse of hubdub is the reason it is thriving.
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Inappropriate?I am shocked there isn't a market asking how long epicur will not participate in the site. We have seen people "leave" before.
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Inappropriate?Mork is a good guy and should be a super-user. It's easy to get drawn into unpleasant exchanges in the comments area when things start to get personal. I read through the thread in question and did not see anything particularly terrible. In fact, it truly pales in comparison to some flames that came my way a couple months ago. All that can be done is for the admins to do their best on settling questions and quickly fixing erroneously settled questions. Other than that, if users flame admins it strikes me as only fair that the admins be able to respond. Ignoring it and walking away is usually the best solution but let's face it, sometimes you just don't want to. Generally speaking, things here at Hubdub have been far more civil than I would have expected.
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