keeping account updated

this has happen more than once. the least they could do is reply and say their working on the problem. i sent the page (not the link) with my net worth, then the next day gains. i gained over $38,000 and got credit for $10,000. i know it's fake money...its just the idea they won't answer me.

don't know what else to say destry. my net worth was $157,691 on 6-26-08 1:32am EST. my gains for last 7 days is +40,768. my net worth now 2-29-08 is $169,972. i've tried the contact us link, and no answer in 3 days.

ok let me see if i understand you correctly. let's say my net worth is $5,000. i have $2,500 cash and $2,500 in predictions. i got a $1,000 that pays $1,500 if i win. i win..should my net value then be $5,500?

can i email you at chris@hubdub.com? i can send you the page so you can see what i'm talking about. to gain $40,000 and only get $10,000 added to my net worth is a bit confusing. i understand after bets are made the move up and down. you say my net worth would go to $5,500...then why i only got a fourth of my gain is really confusing. it's never happen like that before. if my gain is say a $1,000 (settled predictions) my net worth has always went up by a $1,000.

ok i emailed you the info. sorry for not using the contact us link properly. i sent the info to tom, and never heard from him. i shoulda expressed that more clearly.

haven't heard back from you (chris) so i'm guessing you haven't received or haven't had time to review what i sent you. if recently settled adds to net worth (which as always been the case before) don't know why it didn't this time.

well totally at my wits end. nothing being done here, nothing being done on the contact us link. what do i have to do to get somebody to help me? i got (IMHO) undispurtable evidence of my account not updating correctly and nobody will do anything.

i've never got a request for more info from you chris. did you receive the info i sent you? i sent you 2 pages. is chris@hubdub.com the right email addy?

now let's see chris. i gained 4,231 and lost 3,096 on cash in. that gave me a net gain of 1,135. my net worth was 173,715. so add them togeather you get 174,850. i'll be darn it that ain't close to what my home page is saying. so since "it is painfully obvious that the problem is that you don't understand what the figures mean" according to you, maybe you would like to explain them to me. oh wait it's not a priority. i sent ryan the same info i sent you and asked him to give it to you. i still haven't got an email from you requesting any info. maybe between the two of you something can be worked out. have a nice day.

@jenni...i understand what your saying. maybe this has happen to you and you can say yea that happens. after the question settled in settled predictions it said gained $30,000. my net worth only increased by $10,000. i'm no math wizard but thats -$20,000. i don't have gains that big (first one in fact) do you? if you do, do you only get a 3rd? thats what caught my attention..i thought yee haw i'll break the $200,000 mark. well needless to say that ain't how it worked. on small gains, say $4 or $5,000 my net worth goes up by the settled predictions. after i here from you i'll close this out. thanks to all who helped.

@ dieseldoggg -- I think there are variables that may affect the amount of the "increased result" one sees in net worth after a successful settlement.

Let's say you make a H$5,000 prediction on "yes" at 50% on a question as the example for this.

Most of the previous examples have talked about "predictions gaining value during the time they were open" -- which results in something "less" than your seeing a H$5,000 "gain" when you receive settlement (does not include your H$5,000 stake which you also got back).

On the other side, if you made that H$5,000 prediction on "yes" at 50%, and most other users predicted "no" -- even to the extreme of "100% no", then your net worth would have decreased over time (as those other users predicted "no", the value of your "yes" prediction would steadily decrease (to H$4,500, H$4,000, H$3,000, etc...)

If the winning prediction is "yes", and the "net worth" of your prediction is H$0 (or close to it), then, after the settlement, your gain WILL show H$5,000 (and your "cash" will show an increase of H$10,000.)

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About the "ever increasing net worth over time" explanations ...

One way I can easily see the effect of this is, if I have made six predictions on the same market, over a period of time ... Say I predicted H$100 on "yes" six months ago at 33%; then another H$100 on "yes" a month later at 40%; another H$100 a month later at 47%, etc.

When, for example, I make my sixth H$100 prediction at 60%, I can look at the "value of my predictions", just before making the prediction, and then after. The value of my predictions doesn't increase by only H$100 after my last prediction -- but by, sometimes a significant greater amount (maybe H$200) -- as my last H$100 prediction also increased the "value" of all of my previous five H$100 predictions. (Said differently, if I cashed out any of those previous predictions, I would receive more than H$100 for each of them.)

In this example, my "cash" will decrease by exactly H$100 after my sixth prediction, but because my predictions increased by more than H$100, my net worth will increase by more than H$100.

As others have said, after a successful settlement, the amount of cash will increase by the amount of the original stake, plus the amount of "gain" from all of my six predictions.

My net worth, however, is unlikely to increase by that full amount, as my original stake is simply moved from "predictions" to "cash", and some amount of the gain I received was already reflected in the value of my "predictions".

dieseldoggg, please don't be offended if (1) this doesn't answer your question, or (2) if some/most/all of this you already know. Like others, I'm just trying to give your question "my best shot" ;-)

thanks all who helped with this. i understand more than i did before i started. have a nice day.