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OFFICIAL- Square frets :(
What the ***** is this new system of frets... the squares don't work imo. If you happen to miss 1 in a row of the same note it doesn't take the hit of the next one either... please return the circles
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Hey everyone,
So here is the status of things so far.
Earlier this week we decided to move to rectangle shaped notes because they are shorter and allow us to the following functionality which was requested by users:
1. Slower notes, especially for easy (If we slowed down the circles they would start to overlap)
2. See the upcoming notes sooner, also especially for easy
3. When notes come really close in songs like Cancer on hard it gets hard to see
The shorter nature of the rectangle notes allowed us to take care of these three requests.
Sadly, an unintended consequence of this change was that the note windows got smaller and therefore the game got harder.
Some users preferred the harder version, but the overwhelming response was negative. We tweaked a few things here and there, but the feedback was still negative. So we just spent some time adjusting the code so now the timing windows are identical to the circle notes even though the notes appear as squares.
Hopefully this will allow us to take advantage of the rectangle notes' size advantage while still allowing users to have fun with the game.
Thanks for all the feedback so far. Give the game another chance and tell us what you think.
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Inappropriate?Yeah, the circles rocked.. The squares - not so much..
I’m sad, anxious, confused and frustrated..!
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Inappropriate?Squares suck, indeed... Some friends already said they won't play JamLegend anymore unless circles are back :-x
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?after a few hours of playing I still have to say that the squares suck..
They suck in such manner that I'm really considering of quitting JL.. Would be sad to stop playing such an awesome game for an easy problem to fix.
I hope this will get fixed
I’m unhappily letting go of Jam Legend step by step
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Inappropriate?squares suck !!!!!!!!!!!!
I want circles back!!!!
I've just lost on my best score song, i wont play this game until circles are back
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?It's easier on faster songs (expert) to see the notes.
I actually like them.
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?yeh i actualy like them as well, because for example if your playing a song like caner it makes it alot easier. I just hope they make it an option to either use square or circle frets because it looks like alot people dont like squares
I’m SQUARE!!!!!!!!!!
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Inappropriate?Ya, i hope they allow us to change the type of notes. I hate squared ones and they hurt my eyes >.< I was better with the circled ones. -
Inappropriate?Thanks for the feedback everyone. We decided to try out the square notes since they are shorter and therefore offer two advantages.
1) On very hard songs like Cancer the notes dont get bunched up too close together
2) On easy tracks we can have the notes come down slower
What is particular do you like the least about the new notes?
Is it the way they look?
Are things just harder to play?
Is it the fact that the notes come a bit slower now?
We really want to make sure you are all happy and are working hard to try and innovate a system that works well for all users.
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Can you put the circle for the easy songs and the square for the hard ?
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Inappropriate?They aren't pretty, but that's not the main issue.. It just feels wrong.. It's as if you hit it with the absolute best timing, and still it just passes through and breaks your streak.. Might be that I'm used to the other ones, and that over time, I'd get used to these ones too, but honestly I haven't felt like playing all day, cause I just can't get anything right with the squares..
Thanks for a quick reply! I love businesses that use getsatisfaction.. They're all just _so_ much cooler than the rest..!
I’m happy that Arjun is here now..!
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Inappropriate?I do have to say that my average scores per song have dropped with the new frets. My feeling is that you have to be more accurate to hit the note. If you get off, especially in a sequence of close notes, there is significantly more room between notes, so missing again is quite likely.
I’m not happy
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Inappropriate?yeah, maybe I suck or something, but I can't even finish some songs that I used to get through just fine. (i.e., Mulholland on HARD) Something is not right.
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Inappropriate?Thats true, i can't FC songs i would normally FC. This new notes cause a delay in my computer, and its like playing with a tighter hit window. Its true, it helps in songs where all notes are bunched up together but i liked it the other way :( Please, allow us to decide what types of notes we want.
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Inappropriate?Can you make the squares optional? But I really want the circles back. Personally, the rectangles suck.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?PLEASE go back to the round frets or at least give us the option to choose the round ones.
I found the game more difficult to play with the square frets. The timing feels off and if you miss a note, often you'll miss the following one too.
The new frets and timing issue has really affected how much I enjoy playing the game unfortunately.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Hey everyone,
We just deployed some tweaks to the new square notes, let us know what you think.
The new timing threshold is smaller than before (with the circles), but we switched to a new method of checking for note hits that should be more precise.
The speed of the notes is also a bit slower, so it might take a little while to get used to. In fact, it took me about 3-4 plays before I got used to it.
We are thinking about switching to a system that has a larger forgiveness range, but that will give bonus points if your timing is perfect. This will make the game more forgiving, but still allow people who are really good to have a challenge. Any thoughts? -
Inappropriate?That sounds like an excellent idea.. Will try out the new notes later.. Thanks for listening..
I’m happy the world is such a forgiving place..
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Inappropriate?me and like 10 other kids all play in class everyday because its a computer class for at least an hour. we love the showdowns and they have been broken all weekend. now we find out there are square frets. this sucks. why would you change such a great system
I’m angry
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Inappropriate?i've got used to the rectangle ones now, I like it how the boxes at the bottom are smaller now too.
You should get the choice of how you play though. For rectangles you got a higher score or something?
Also, what do the new shiny rectangle notes do? Bonus score for getting notes closse together? -
Inappropriate?Yeah, bonus points for perfect timing! That's a good idea.
But please, let us choose between circles and squares...
Thanks for your support!
I’m a sad smiley
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Inappropriate?I'm very much against the choice between circles and squares.. Keep it simple.. Choose one for us, and let that be it.. (Still hope you choose circles, but if you've got good reason not to, well then that's your decision..)
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Inappropriate?rectangles are better than squares in forgivness, but the 'miss one-miss more' thing is still there (at least I feel this way)... circles still own, imo
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I hated the original square notes, but the current ones work much better! And now it plays a lot better on my Vista box too, without the stuttering which I have experienced on that box
I’m confident
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Inappropriate?"What is particular do you like the least about the new notes?
Is it the way they look?
Are things just harder to play?
Is it the fact that the notes come a bit slower now?"
it's everything! squares feels wrong, if you miss a note then you'll miss the following one, and it's harder to get notes
Squares= not fun at all
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?I really don't like the square notes, the slower speed means you have to have a better sense of exactly when the note passes through the strum zone, it is probably an advantage to have it on hard songs but being somebody who isn't very good at music games (although still really enjoys playing them) it's really screwing me up. I think it you should be able to opt-in to square notes, but it should default to circles.
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Inappropriate?The square notes are not so bad, they really come in hand on harder songs or dificult solos, as long as the larger forgiveness range that Arjun told about start working, I believe it will probably be a great improvement in the game.
The problem really is that the square notes are harder to play, and the previous scores were easier to get, so it has become a lot harder to get goal score in some musics, so, as long as this new gaming system is ready, something should be done about the goal scores, like disabling the ladder point system for 1-2 days, or make it optional to use the circle notes while the square note system isn't ready yet -
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Inappropriate?The boxy frets look cool, but I can't play them. Don't know what it is, but even when I hit them it doesn't register all the time. This is very frustrating, since I now suck even on songs I used to get perfects on. Don't know if I can keep playing it's too frustrating. Guess I'll check back in a few days to see if it's any better. Very disappointing.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Yeah in reality. I hopped out of a few songs that I normally play because I didn't want to take the negative hit on my rank due to the fact that transitioning from Circ to Rect didn't go so well.
It's definitely harder on the eyes then the circ's were. Perhaps you could have the rect's for the hard level and circ's for easy and medium. I'm still a medium player so I'm sure it makes hard easier but it really ruins the experience for new players.
Additionally, all of your demo videos show circles still, which means you would have to redo those too. No offense, JL is really awesome, but please return the circ's for Easy and Medium. It definitely made it harder on medium and easy, regardless of whether it made it easy on hard.
I’m confused
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Inappropriate?while playiing the circle sign it is much easier to hit the target
the first version square it lower my accuracy about 25%
the newer version square (or we should call that "line"?) lower my accuracy
almost 40% or more
maybe someone else prefer the square sign
but i believe that most of us perfer the circle sign better
it is my opinion
it is a good online game
go ahead teams!
I’m QQ
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Inappropriate?Sorry, but the square frets are just aggrevating, Me and all of my friends are high in the overall score area, one of my friends being #38 overall is quiting unless the circle frets are back, so will the rest of my friends.
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?We pushed an updated version of the square notes that should be more forgiving, does anyone notice a difference?
Let us know what you think. (You may need to clear the cache in your browser in order to load the updated version) -
Inappropriate?Sorry, this doesn't solve the problem.
Please can you bring back circle frets, even if you brung back the advertisement I'd still be happy.
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Inappropriate?I have this problem on all songs i play, you should change it back to how it was ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
I’m ANGRY
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Inappropriate?hey why do you insist on these square frets? most of all want the circle frets back.
I’m angry
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Inappropriate?I want the circle frets back,... PLEEEEEAAAAAASE!!!!!
But I have to say that I loved the previous interface with the rounded notes, and rounded strum area.
The timing to strum the notes is much more strict now than before, and that does not let me play the song along with the rythm. Now I have to be carefull all the time, and that takes out much of the fun I used to have.
I really hope jamlegends to get back to how it was before, althouth it's still beta.
Anyway, keep up the good work. It really is a great browser game...
I’m frustated, sad amd confused...
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Inappropriate?"We pushed an updated version of the square notes that should be more forgiving, does anyone notice a difference?"
Still don't like it !
stop making update just put the circles back
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Honestly, I don ́t like rectangles either. Please, bring back the circles.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Hey everyone,
So here is the status of things so far.
Earlier this week we decided to move to rectangle shaped notes because they are shorter and allow us to the following functionality which was requested by users:
1. Slower notes, especially for easy (If we slowed down the circles they would start to overlap)
2. See the upcoming notes sooner, also especially for easy
3. When notes come really close in songs like Cancer on hard it gets hard to see
The shorter nature of the rectangle notes allowed us to take care of these three requests.
Sadly, an unintended consequence of this change was that the note windows got smaller and therefore the game got harder.
Some users preferred the harder version, but the overwhelming response was negative. We tweaked a few things here and there, but the feedback was still negative. So we just spent some time adjusting the code so now the timing windows are identical to the circle notes even though the notes appear as squares.
Hopefully this will allow us to take advantage of the rectangle notes' size advantage while still allowing users to have fun with the game.
Thanks for all the feedback so far. Give the game another chance and tell us what you think.
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Inappropriate?Honestly, I would say the square frets problem is solved.
After that recent update, the timing is much more tolerant, and I'm aving fun once again.
Now, I'm happy with jamlegend.
I really don't care if it is a square or a circle, I just want to have some fun once in a while, on my spare time.
I really like it now.
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Inappropriate?honestly. I have to say that the problem still not be solved
for those player who depend on the seeing sight to play this game
will cause a bigger problem
the timing and the frets will make the program do the wrong recaganize
when i play the same song 330K----->25Xk
what the **** = =
after three times playing the same song
moholland hard level the timing is still hard to take it
and when miss one you miss five or more than ten
using the tempo i used in the circle frets
it only can easily beat me down
I used to beat my goal score easily
now it is almost MISSION IMPOSSIBLE FOUR for me
plz give me some help -
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Inappropriate?OMG! Can't you just get used to it like everyone else had to, its much better because when I used to play insane on the old notes I could not hit the notes close to each other, but now I can because they are smaller.
I’m Amused
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I think everyone has gotten used to it Mupton. This is an old topic, so I'm gonna bury this.
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