Photosynth stuck a "Publishing" phase.
I have tried to create a photosynth twice with the same set of images but for some reason right after uploading all the pictures to photosynth the client stick to the "publishing photosynth" phase and won't go anywhere.
Trying to create another photosynth with the same name result in an error that a photosynth with the same name already exist... but looking at the web site the photosynth is not showing up.
My photosynth user id is bmaltais if that can help you.
I should mention that the picture size is 720p (1280x720). Not sure if it matter or not. What I am trying to do is see if I can expedite the creation of a synth by using footage from an HD cam in progressive mode and extract individual frames as photo from it to build a synth.
I should start a topic on that alone I think... link to HD topic
Trying to create another photosynth with the same name result in an error that a photosynth with the same name already exist... but looking at the web site the photosynth is not showing up.
My photosynth user id is bmaltais if that can help you.
I should mention that the picture size is 720p (1280x720). Not sure if it matter or not. What I am trying to do is see if I can expedite the creation of a synth by using footage from an HD cam in progressive mode and extract individual frames as photo from it to build a synth.
I should start a topic on that alone I think... link to HD topic
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Inappropriate?Check the log file to see if it is finished uploading or wether it has crashed:
http://getsatisfaction.com/livelabs/t...
I had the same problem but it just took some time before it actually showed up on the site -
Inappropriate?We're seeing this intermittently. We're still under high load, but most synths are working. I suggest trying again with a different name.
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Inappropriate?this is the last line in the log:
15:48:07 VtApp: Collection completed (27% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet.
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i just noticed that this the ending line of every log, even the succeeded ones. -
Agree, I have the same issue, 2 synths, 1 appears on the site, 1 doesn't, both have the same in the log... "VtApp: Collection completed (X% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet."
(p.s. did someone think to check the spelling of available!) -
Inappropriate?I had the same thing in my log, it took about 6 hours from the logged timestamp before it showed up on the site, so I can just recommend you to be patient :)
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Same issue, how patient... it's been 14 hours now since "VtApp: Collection completed (X% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet." appeared in the log. -
Inappropriate?I am not home right now... The 1st synth completed last night before going to bed and was still not available on the web site this morning... So I ran it again under a different name and it still is not showing.
I cant check the log as I am at work... Oh... what am I doing on this forum then... back to work ;-) -
Inappropriate?Just checked and still no sign of my synth.
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Inappropriate?I believe my synth appeared 3h ago. If that's right (may it's been 4h and I just didn't check), than my synth took 11h to appear. As I had already given up on the first one I uploaded a new one with the same images. That's been done with uploading about 3hs ago. And it's still not available online.
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Inappropriate?I left the program running all night. Unfortunately, it seems that the problem is that a few million of us are all trying at the same time. :)
Try, try, try again.
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Inappropriate?mine just showed up, i guess we just need to give it some time...
BTW, this thing is awesome!!!, i can rotate around Chichen Itza and i didn't toke the photos knowing about this app...
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Inappropriate?I'm having the same problem as well. But I've only been waiting about an hour, and everyone else says it takes 6 or 7 hours. So I'll wait.
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Inappropriate?Guessing I had a failure on upload since mine sat at the same phase for ever then found this in the log.
exception CollectionUploader.cpp(100) hr(0xA0000006)
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?Saw this post somewhere else and thought I would repost it here.
I too am having this same issue.
Alex D, Official Rep, replied 1 day ago
Photosynth has been under incredible demand since we released late yesterday evening. Getting ready for the launch we did massive amounts of performance testing, built capacity model after capacity model, and yet with all of that, you threw so many uploads at the service we had to throttle them back for a few hours.
At the same time, we tried to tweak a few database settings to allow us to handle more uploads and inadvertently introduced a bug that is causing a small percent of synths to fail with an error code or hang right at the end. We're rolling back that change now and that should fix the majority of those errors.
While that is being fixed, we are adding capacity as fast as we can and letting in more and synthers. Keep trying, but it might be a few hours before we can get everyone in. In the mean time, we hope you will check out our "How to Synth" video (http://blip.tv/file/1190926/), grab a camera, head outside and start taking pictures for the next awesome synth.
No excuses; just the facts on why you are seeing these issues. We really appreciate the enthusiasm and are hard at work ironing out the issues and adding more capacity.
1 person says
this solves the problem
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Inappropriate?I tried the first time about 2 hours ago but I closed the app cause I thought it had just froze after letting it run for about 30 mins while I was doing other things on my PC. I tried the second time and the app was still stalling on the publishing phase. I then checked the web site and noticed that it was down so I figured it was an infrastructure problem. I'm trying a third time and will let it go and see what happens. Maybe it says somewhere but it'd be nice to have a prompt "Be prepared to wait 6-12 hours for your synth".
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Inappropriate?I actually ran into this too. If it seems stuck on publishing (the last phase) for a long time, one thing you should know is that probably this is a server queuing issue (we're working on that), not a synthing issue. You can close the synther, shut the laptop, start a new synth (after closing the synther, that is), whatever-- it's likely that that synth will actually show up sometime in the not-too-distant future.
I’m sheepish
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Inappropriate?jed, it shows up under your synths-- if you're signed in, the link is near the top right of the page. You can also search (top right) for your name, the name of the synth, any tag, something in the caption.
Of course, it may take a while to show up. Hopefully that'll be fixed soon.
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Thank you, i have calmed down and understand that it's over loaded. But now every time i try to explore other people completed synths it tells me to install. I shut down firefox 3 and reinstalled(clicked on repair photosynth), restarted and got the same thing. -
Inappropriate?I am wondering if the fact that none of the pictures part of my synth have exif data could be part of the issue. The three synth that came from Digital photo Camera all showed up fine on photosynth web site... but all the ones from my HD camera (no exif data since they are from video stills) are not showing yet.
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Inappropriate?I believe it is working you just have to wait. Because if you try to close the program and it is NOT finished it warns you that it will be lost. But if you close the app while in this state you get no errors.
I do find it funny that you can right click EDIT and be able to make changes - but it squaks that you ALREADY HAVE one with that name. Even thou it is not showing up yet. I have 2 or 3 I am waiting to show up. But I have NOT tried to change the name and resubmit - might cause duplicates but it might be worth a shot -
Inappropriate?What's frustrating is that a) it gets stuck in the "publishing" phase and b) you have to sort of deduce that there is a log file (it's never mentioned or linked to or anything obvious like that) and c) when I open my logs, 2 of them say "Upload finished
16:45:50 VtApp: Collection completed (x% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet."
And then, they never show up on Photosynth. So, what's the deal? Will it ever show up? If not, then why don't I get an error message?
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Inappropriate?Peenie, we know this is frustrating! It's certainly not the intended behavior. Publishing should be quick and it should be available for viewing immediately. We're working on it!
I’m bummed that so many are having this problem
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Inappropriate?Same here, then when you try to upload another one with the same name you get an error of duplicate synth.
If something is going on in the cloud could we not see what is going on? Can we get a view of the pipeline/queue that we are waiting in?
That way we at least know that the synth is in the cloud but not ready?
A status at least (uploaded, waiting to be published)?
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Inappropriate?OK. Roger that. My guess is that it happens when a certain file size is reached. I'm shooting 4 meg images, and what I noticed is that the smaller projects work, but when I use a lot of images (more than say 68), it seems to bomb out. Just FYI...
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Inappropriate?Would be nice to add a button to the little Photosynth window to say "View Log", instead of having to go to help and then search for it. :)
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Inappropriate?Yeah...I'm stealthtech on this one...If I upload a video to Youtube, I'm not just hung out to dry...the video shows up with a status of "Waiting for approval". So, I know that 1) it uploaded and 2) someone has to approve it. Takes a lot of the mystery out of the process.
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Inappropriate?To be clear, there should be *no* pipeline or queue-- the progress bar should reflect progress, and it shouldn't hang out on 'publishing synth' for long at all. As soon as it's done, a view button appears, and that's it. In other words, this is a bug we know about and are working hard on right now, not a design flaw. (Not that there aren't design flaws in our service too.) This bug was probably introduced when we scaled up after yesterday's outages. Birth pains.
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Inappropriate?Is this product in Beta testing? Or is this release candidate 1.0? I think the product is very cool, and what it does is outrageous. But something as buggy as this product should be in Beta, IMHO.
Just signing in is a nightmare. It wants me to either sign into Photosynth or to sign into Windows Live with either Windows Live ID or my Passport ID and then I've got to link it to Get Satisfaction and I'm like...wait a minute....am I on crack, or is this a bad "Punked" episode????
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Peenie, essentially this product *is* in beta, yes. With a web service there's not much meaning to the 'beta' label these days, unfortunately-- testing involves putting it out there, so *every* web service is a 'beta' in its first few months. (Conversely, some very mature web services are still called 'betas', for reasons I can't quite fathom.) We have had it working well in the Microsoft community for some months, but of course all kinds of crazy stuff comes up for the first time when something like this encounters 'real life'-- meaning real people, real server loads, real heterogeneity, and real worldwide traffic. We're doing our utmost to improve it as quickly as possible. Your feedback is very valuable to us. Your first synths do seem to be turning out quite decently, though! :)
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Inappropriate?Our ops guys have just emailed me that they may have found & fixed the problem. Let's try synthing again and see what happens!
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Inappropriate?Roger that. I'll keep kicking it around. I resized all of my images down from 4 Meg files to approx 50K jpg files. Processing was faster and upload was faster and then, I was able to get a photosynth to work with approx 70 images. (I only got a 50% synthy though, so I have to be more careful with my photos, I'm guessing).
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Inappropriate?Blaise, good becasue I left to get something to eat came back and guess what. I'm looking at "Publishing synth." My last post was about an hour ago. I'm going to quit and try again.
The last one made it but some are still missing "Faild Publishig". Am I now not going to be able to upload and use a name used during a failed pulish. Last time I got a snyth already exist.
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Inappropriate?Yes, I'd give the synths new names. It'll still go faster than the first time, since the system will recognize that some or all of the images are already there.
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Inappropriate?I'm still having the same problem. However, I think it has something to do with filesize. I was able to successfully upload/publish a synth of 68 images after resizing them down to about 50K each. Just now, I noticed that a 68 image synth I uploaded in high res 4 hours ago finally showed up. So, possibly it's a time delay due to large file sizes? I just tried to re-upload the 68 image synth at 4megs a photo and got same results - hangs on publishing, log says all is well but not available yet - i suspect it will appear in about 4-5 hours from now.
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Inappropriate?I uploaded a set of about 250 pics of quite high quality more than 24 hours ago, logfile shows 100% Synthy even, but they havent showed up yet.
Tried uploading a set of 30 pictures of high res 2 hours ago, also not appeared yet. -
what does the last line of your log file say?
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temp\Photosynther\filename.log -
Inappropriate?I'm looking at 5 stuck synths. Will they go through eventually or do we have to reupload them to have them work?
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Inappropriate?I'd say there's a definite possibility they'll show up within the next 12 hours. But I'd go on to say that the possibility of this is fairly low. My experience was that, if it hangs, it might show up within 4 hours, or, then again, it might not. Wish I had better news. :)
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Inappropriate?Same problem for past 8 hrs or so.
Asking users to look at / report on log files and wait hours for system responses is definate beta behaviour. Asking *general consumers* to do this and understand the intraciies of server loads etc means heading for reputation badlands
Photosynth is wonderful and deservedly very popular. It is obviously created by people who are very excited about the product (as the marketing folks will start to call it). However It needs to decide if it's a geeky cool plaything (comlete with log files, server codes et al) or a consumer destination for the whole world.
I actually heard a MS sales guy urging people to check out Photosynth as an example of scalable R&D brought to the wider market and supported by MS business systems yesterday.
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I had to wait 16 hours :p
My log said "22:15:30 VtApp: Collection completed (x% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet."
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Inappropriate?It's pushing 12 hours for my synth. I added two synths yesterday that processed very quickly, but my one from last night appears stuck. Here is the most recent log entry (date of 8/22/2008):
20:11:12 VtApp: Collection completed (100% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet.
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Inappropriate?None of mine are showing either. But I also still cannot add new versions with the same name. So either the name / data is cached locally or on the server. Is there a way to "flush" local cache to and then retry? For example one called "Tigger" is quite large and I got the semi-finsihed / not finished state. I try to send again under same name and it errors me.
Q: Is there a way to flush out any local cache? Reinstall? :(
I’m sad. I love this program and would love to help make it better.
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Inappropriate?Some of the synths I uploaded yesterday showed up promptly. 1 Showed up after 4 hours. 2 never showed up. Ouch.
This product should be in Beta testing status. Saying that "With a web service [...] *every* web service is a 'beta' in its first few months" doesn't change that fact. There is a distinction between a Beta release and a stable product, even on the internet. For instance, when I go to download updates on MIcrosoft's web site, it says "Do you want to try the Beta version of the update?" and I say "No."
That's what this product should say. "We slapped together some code that seems to work sporadically, at best. Would you like to be a Beta tester?" Then, I'd say "Yes" and not complain when it doesn't work. -
Inappropriate?20hrs now for me and still no synth, don't particularly want to have another go at uploading 1Gb of photos.
Need to do better at notifying the users at to the status of there synth - nice product but could do with at least a preview option to check everything is looking ok before uploading
I’m frustrated at having no knowledge on a synth status
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Inappropriate?I closed the program and tried to synth the files again. The second time is was succesful. Just try it again. Eventually it will work.
And it's really worth the time!!
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?OK, I think I am on something. I noticed that all my synth made purely from my Canon Rebel digital camera will process and show up on Photosynth right away. Those pictures all have proper EXIF data in them.
All the synth based on jpeg missing EXIF data are not showing after being uploaded... so my guess is that somewhere in Photosynth it is expecting EXIF in pictures... and if it is missing it just goes nowhere.
Look at your log files for lines about missing EXIF data. All my successful synth are exempt of errors regarding EXIF. All the ones that won't show up on the sites exhibit missing EXIF errors. -
Inappropriate?I don't think so. Once I stuck in the Publishing phase. 2 hours later I used EXACTLY the same files and it worked without any problem.
I think the problem is caused because everyone is trying to upload his synths. -
Inappropriate?We have worked through the night and things look much better on our end. If you can, please try to synth some new images and let us know if you see this "Stuck at publishing" problem.
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Inappropriate?I've uploaded three synths now and none of them have gotten past the publishing stage. I'm working on a fourth... maybe I'll get lucky this time?
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Still hanging on the publishing phase....over 2 hours now.
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That first synth still hasn't published, it's been 15 hours.
- But, since then I've had 15 synths published, and one more failure.
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Inappropriate?Thank you for your feedback. We are and will continue to investigate the issue.
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Inappropriate?This fixed my problems. I was able to upload two very large synths successfully today. I had no problems with hanging on the Publishing phase. The two that I tried worked perfectly. :)
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Good to hear !
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Inappropriate?More details on my successes - My camera is a Canon EOS 40D and I used the full-on high-res 4 meg per photo .jpg files. The most advanced one I uploaded had approx 130 photos, at 4 megs per image. I didn't get a very high synthy rating, and I was expecting 100%. I've read the hints/tips/suggestions.pdf file, and tried to follow directions. But, it is working. Now it's just a matter of playing with it, I think. :)
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Inappropriate?Thank you for the info. I'm sure you've already seen this but the following link may help make your photos more Synthy.
http://photosynth.net/inc/movies/Phot...
We are watching this issue closely.
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?Peenie Wallie and others, thanks very much for your patience. We're all very keen to get this 'publishing synth' problem fully sorted out. Bert, Seth and others have stayed up nearly continuously for three days, and have improved the situation considerably, but we know we're not quite there yet. It still does occasionally hang on publish. Let's give them a day off before they jump back in the fray!
I’m proud of my team's heroics, thankful to our users, and know we'll get there soon!
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this solves the problem
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I just completed a 3 hour synth, which showed up directly (300+ photo's).
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Inappropriate?Blaise, right after I posted my reply it finally succeeded. Then I went and redid two previous synths and they also worked as well. It is starting to look up!
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Seems to be working much better today, but I did just get a repeat of the problem. Synth is 33 high-res (4 meg) images. Progress bar got stuck when publishing. No errors in log.
23:10:32 VtApp: Upload finished
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Inappropriate?16:46:48 VtApp: Collection completed (88% synthy), but isn't avialable for viewing yet
Here's hoping it works.. almost 8 hours later.
I’m being patient.
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Inappropriate?I had the same problem and tried about three times until I realised that if I rotated all the photos in Windows Photo Gallery so that they were all positioned the right way (ie: portratait shots were rotated to be right way around) and it published straight away
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Inappropriate?I've now tried three synth.
First one finished 22.08. 2:00 UTC and it was published around 14:00 UTC on the 22.08.
The second one finished at 22.08. 11:57 UTC it's not published yet. (I contained the same photos I just change one of the lower case letters in the title to an upper case letter:)
Then I tried a third one that one finished on the 23.08. 21:54UTC (so about 14h ago). It's not published either. It would be great to know whether there is some way to look at the queue. It would be very encouraging, if I knew whether I got to change my behaviour or whether I can go on synthing and be patient.
I’m longing for some feed back of synth 2 and 3 of mine.
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Inappropriate?Almost 12 hours since the files are uploaded, still not showing up. How is the queue anyway ? Because there are peoples publishing later and it's already shown online.
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Inappropriate?I am not sure but if it has been more than 12 hours you can probably forget those synth. I, for myself, have at least 3 synth that successfully uploaded but never showed. I think I tracked it down to missing EXIF data in the pictures used to make those synth. All my synth that have EXIF data in the pictures have shown just fine... Only the ones with EXIF data missing are not showing even if they appear to have synthed right.
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But there must be some luck involved. I uploaded precisely the same synth twice (apart from the name) and just one of them showed up. And all my photos came directly out of the camera, so I guess all of them had the same amount of meta data. -
Inappropriate?I'm not sure if this was mentioned, so don't yell at me if it was, and I have not tested this specifically, but it seemed that this error only occurred when i switched users (WIN + L) while it was synthing. I will test this when I get home later today, but I am fairly certain that this is the cause.
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Inappropriate?i created a synth called "casa", never seen it and now i can't use that name anymore. just now the same with another synth called "pannello 4".
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Inappropriate?I had created 5 Synths last Friday and only 1 of them made it through. I had left the app open over the weekend and none of them made it through. So I took and renamed and resynthed them all this morning. On this attempt 3 of the 4 went through right away and I just took and resynthed the failed one right away and it succeeded right then. So now all of my Synths are online and it seems the issue has gotten better at least.
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Inappropriate?This is still one of my major problems! I have several synths that stuck at the publishing stage. The last line of the log files has something like this "21:45:48 VtApp: Collection completed (96% synthy), but isn't available for viewing yet." I’ve been wating for days for some to show up, but nothing yet. I have one that shows under my synths page, but if I do a search on my user name it will bring up all but that one.
I’ve had synths that I’ve sent more than once with different names and still none of them show up. I know the photos are on the severs because they didn’t re-upload and I also watched the upload data amount to see that it was in line with the size of all the photos I upload. I’ve sent a few GB of stuff and that amount didn’t seem to update my space used listing. The photos must be on the severs because they don’t re-upload.
All the synths that go through without sticking at the publishing phase, seem to work fine and show up on the system. It’s just the stuck ones that are missing and re-uploading with a different names doesn’t seem to solve this.
1 person says
this solves the problem
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Inappropriate?This happened to me aswell what i did to resolve the problem was add the program as an exception to the firewall and it didnt get stuck again... hope this will help --- by the way running on x64 bit vista if that concerns anyone...
I’m ok really I am
1 person says
this solves the problem
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Inappropriate?According to their blog, they had some hard disk trouble on their database machine a couple days ago. They switched to their backup server, so all the synths are gone, although they're names are still logged. So the fix is to redo the synth using a new name. I had to redo 2 of mine, but they worked just fine.
Here's the post
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?resubmit your photosynth since the previous ones have been removed with a previous server
I’m happy
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this solves the problem
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Inappropriate?In most cases I have seen with this, (especially the ones over the last few days) the problem seems more likely to be a referesh issue of the client side application/dialog box than an actual issue with publishing. I have seen the "stuck at publishing" issue many times (probably 5-10 or so times in 20-30 test synths I have done). In all of the recent ones, the synth showed up on the site (i.e. I could go to "My Synths" and it would be there completed and visible) within 10-30 minutes of when it said "publishing" on the application/dialog, but often the dialog lags behind hours or indefinitely forcing me to close it. Perhaps the issue is now related (or at least sometimes related) to the app just not refreshing the status of the site appropriately rather than the publishing not happening?
I’m looking on the bright side of life..doodoo, doodoo, doodoo doodoo doodoo.
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Inappropriate?Hi I don't know if the problem has been solved yet but I found a way to make it go much faster. I found that if you close Photosynth when it's synthing, then open it and try again, it'll go much quicker. It'll go quicker afterwards on later synths as well.
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?If I get disconnected from the internet while Publishing, I get this error. I wish there were a "restart" button, so that after synthing, I can retry the publis
I’m hopeful
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Inappropriate?Is this true that the last responses to do with the problem I'm currently experiencing are all "1 year ago", or is something up with the forum clock? After all the first staff responses said that a solution was being worked on and it would be fixed soon.
Not particularly put out at this point but I hope it's not going to be a recurrent problem. Using a new "corporatised" account (and a newer, faster PC) on a firewalled network that I've happily uploaded various synths from before using a nasty old PC and personal login. It's done all the dirty work on my quick 25-or-so image test synth, but is now stuck at 82%. No network traffic noticable (so it's not shooting tons of packets at the firewall and being denied). Been like this longer than it took to calculate, now. I guess it's hung.
(strangely there's a slow trickle of ~1-2kbyte/sec coming IN, and the occasional hundred or two going out, but that's about it. The CPU keeps spiking to about 33-50% for some reason too. Odd).
If I do over, is it likely it will work?
NB I just realised it's using 10 mpx images - but if the synther still works the same way as before they get de-rezzed to 1.5 mpx for calculation and upload, don't they? -
Oh what. About five seconds after I posted that, it finished, apparently successfully. So the nature of the enquiry changes - what's with the hangup, and why did the progress bar stay at 80-ish % for so long before jumping instantly to "finished"? :) -
OK finally got to load it, and it's worked about as well as could be expected for such a mediocre set of pics (rather coarse angles between them, some rather poorly related positions, a few un-rotated portrait shots (STILL not auto detecting these? :) and a model that was turned whilst the background stayed still...) ---- but one further annoyance. When I clicked the "view" button in the synther, it asked me to log in (I thought I already was?!) before I could view it, and then started going on about encrypted pages. Thing is, this is a - supposedly - publically viewable synth. Shouldn't it just dump me right on the page regardless of login and not need any encryption?
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You need to be patient...
The original problem had been fixed a long time ago. If the process hung, it was much faster to run the second time.
Initially it does upload all of your images so if you run a second synth with the same set of photos (say you add more to "get" them to be more connected) it will NOT upload what is already on the server. It knows what is using the photos too, so if you have three synths that share the same photos (their names are the key) and delete two of the synths, the photos for the third synth will not be removed.
Uploading the photos can take awhile. So can generating the maps and the point clouds. Fast(er) computers tend to be only marginally faster than the older ones; rarely do you see a 2 or 3 times increase in performance in computers built within a few years of each other.
As far as the privacy, there is now an option to make a synth private, but after you login it takes you to your account to allow you to manage your synth since there are additional options that you can add to it after uploading it. If you don't want to login, you can try to perform a search to find it (good luck).
Remember, if you are taking a photo of an object that you are rotating, keep in mind that photosynth buids the point cloud based upon distinct points that are shared between photos. So if your camera is stationary and you are rotating an object without the background changing, then you will not get a good synth. Best thing to do is to try to minimize the background as much as possble: put up a sheet, curtain, ect... Improve the lighting on the object that you are rotating to improve the contrast and have it FILL the photo as much as possible. As a rule of thumb, there MUST be at LEAST a 33% overlap between two photos for the software to link them. If you cannot go back and reshoot a subject, I have found that if you take two photos and start to crop them down to a common point, creating new photos, then sometimes that is enough of a hint for the software to link the originals (if there is still enough of a resolution). To increase the point cloud on your object, try taking more photos from a different perspective of the image; ie... move the camera 3 feet up/down and take another full spin of the object.
Enjoy... Once you figure out how Photosynth works, you will find it easy to generate synths at 100% with 400+ photos like what I have been able to do.
Scottt -
Thanks Scott... it did eventually work. However there was a LOT of waiting, and it DID look for all the world that it had hung - there was no indication of ANY kind of activity going on (not even any significant CPU, disk or network use via task manager), and I wasn't far off killing the process and starting over. Has the progress bar maybe been simplified too far? Would there be any mileage in providing a secondary "this task" progress meter (and expositionary text) as seen in various other programs that could show, e.g. that the small 78-82% (or whatever it is) range on the "floating duck" main bar represents an awful lot of leg-thrash below the surface, and it IS slowly counting up the hundreds-of-megs, waiting for server response, etc? (For that matter, the progress is very uneven, though I know this is a universal and probably intractible issue... it goes with reasonable pace up to this point ....... hangs for an age ...... then ZAP, suddenly it's 100% complete!)
For the record I am a time served previous synther on a personal account, I've been through various problems before and I know you tend to sort them out given time. And I also know that doing each one takes quite a bit of processing... but usually the bit it was "stuck" on doesn't take so long as the rest of it, which is why I was somewhat confused at this "new" machine's extra-fast progress in the early stages (it was definitely several times quicker than what I'd have previously expected, about 50 minutes vs many hours - whether this is due to severe improvements in CPU efficiency for relevant instructions (horrible old Celeron -> Core 2 Duo) or just your programmers reaching the next stage of eliteness I can't say) culminating in an apparent grinding halt at what had previously been a comparitively speedy step (upload... I'm on a 100mbit line and it was a quiet period).
Quite cool to hear about that photo de-dupe thing, though. A very good idea, is that new? I'm thinking if it applies retroactively I might log into my awhile-dormant personal account and find I've got an extra few gigs free now, what with all my multiple "ok, does THIS work instead?" synths.
I'm not entirely sure what you're meaning by the privacy; I had set this to be a public synth and intend to leave it as such for now (and, without tweaking anything, can successfully get to & use it in the guise of J Random Websurfer). I was somewhat confused instead by the BROWSER coming up with security, encryption etc warnings, asking for login etc. Surely that shouldn't happen for a public one? In any case, that hasn't happened since the first time, so who knows.
And I did try to do the synth pics pretty much as you've explained there... Early attempts with putting the model we're using for this first one on a makeshift turntable with a steady - albeit effectively featureless - background (and in some cases, a steady floor plane) really didn't work so well, though this was kind of expected. For those ones, I was just getting the shots while I could because we didn't expect to have use of the model for very long, and intended to ruthlessly crop and edit them to blank any confusing details. In the end, what's worked far better is putting the stand in a fixed location with plenty of room around it, lining up what background boards we had to be straight behind the "main" view... then taking the camera off the tripod, and taking baby steps around it, trusting in my own hand and Canon's excellent image stabiliser function. Wierd. Now, to find an HDR merging thing to produce some extended range pics from the tripod/turntable based ones that I did bracketing for then do the background manipulation and see if they can be convinced to properly synth in. Too bad the "on the ground" and "flyby" shots didn't really come out. Need a proper model-shooting camera for that really... nice and narrow with large depth of field when close up, kind of like........... oh.... hmm! Like the webcam I've got in the cupboard! I wonder if PS will run screaming from its 1.3mpx, high ISO images, or eat them up happily?
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