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Windows Mobile support for Loopt
Will Loopt be available for Windows Mobile platform soon?
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Are you EVER going to put it on Windows Phones? Because they now have www.glympse.com for iPhone, Windows Phone, Android and it's real cool. I'm just wondering if you'll catch up ever? I've asked for 2 years now?
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So after 2 years of constant asking there's still no answer? Min, Chris and Nick: what's the point of Community powered support if you're just going to ignore us anyway?
I’m dissapointed that loopt ignores customers
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Don't you guys get it? Loopt people are Iphone users, and don't want to be bothered with WINMO users. These guys probably work only on Macs and refuse to give their product to WINMO users, because their servers would be overwhelmed quickly. They want to remain in a niche market. Look at how long users have complained; almost 2 years! Yet their response has not changed. It's a shame, but in a year or so, someone else will come by with something similar on the WINMO platform, with the server capacity, and the desire to charge a few bucks and make a mint off of this. It may be Google's Latitude, or someone else. But it will happen. These guys obviously don't have the forethought or desire. WINMO users....move on.
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Among smartphones Windows Mobile has the largest market share and anyone with Visual Studio .NET can develop an application. No application fee, no permission slip from Steve Jobs, no rejection after it's already been completed, no limits (or fees) on distributing it.
Now, provide an intelligent argument about why it wasn't the first (or possibly 2nd after Symbian) platform that Loopt was developed for...
I’m confused
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Nick,
I have many issues with you above explanation:
There are three ways a phone gets Loopt support:
1. A carrier or handset OEM asks us to support it or offers to pre-load it (ship Loopt on the device out of the box).
--In my case, an AT&T Tilt user, you are already supporting AT&T phones.
2. The phone accounts for a large percentage of a carrier's user base. (ex: the Motorola Razr)
--I don't know the figures here but I am willing to bet, if even by this thread, that a "large" percentage if not a majority of any carrier's user base phone's are windows mobile devices. Android devices are considered a large percentage?
3. A developer a Loopt has the phone and makes a build for it on their own time. The iPhone and Nokia N95 builds started this way.
--Call me a skeptic but it really feels like WinMo devices are being ignored on purpose...so people go out and buy more iPhones? I know many devlopers and a great majority are carrying around WinMo devices over Iphone's because the abundance of available software and functionality.
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Seems like there is tons of excitement for this product! It's been nearly 6 months since I first asked about this. I agree too, with previous posts. and like that like one employee said : "we don’t support Windows Mobile devices right now and probably won't be able to for a while due to a number of factors." BIG Mistake Loopt. I've crossed over to the IPHONE now, and tried loopt, but with only a handful of others on it... uninstalled it. I've done some dev on WINMO, and most phones coming out now have GPS built in, which is readily accessible. I don['t understand the hold up either. What are the "number of factors" ?? Not enough employees? Lack of skills? Lack of funding? It's gotta be some reason. Loopt would rocket to the next level with WM clients. This is obvious. With no app.. you soon will get passed up by other competitors. Good luck.
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I must say... the Windows Mobile systems is one of the top OS out there. Its been around much longer than any other OS and there are hundreds of applications made for it.
I being loopt would have had this in my forecast and would have planned to tackle this task since it would expand the service and brand. I understand development and the challenges of planning and the testing of the process.
It seems to me you have a market in the Windows Mobile arena. I for 1 know I can have my whole sales force and most if not all my territory reps on a system like this. That's over 400 Units which use Windows Mobile...
I’m excited but frustrated
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(I'm sure you researched this out - just as a developer, this is my input)
Just use the GPS Intermediate Driver introduce in Windows Mobile 5.0. AFAIK this is what google maps uses...
Is it possible for loopt to provide an API that we can use? If that was the case, we could develop something - just need the API to submit the coordinates to (along with username, credentials, etc). If friends locations and information was also published we could use that too.
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Hey Equus, which device do you use? We don't have any WinMo builds but a bunch of us would like to see one...i don't think we have a reason NOT to release Loopt on WinMo devices and if we see a lot of demand for it then we'll make it a higher priority of course.
I’m always exciting about working on a new platform
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Inappropriate?Hey Equus, which device do you use? We don't have any WinMo builds but a bunch of us would like to see one...i don't think we have a reason NOT to release Loopt on WinMo devices and if we see a lot of demand for it then we'll make it a higher priority of course.
I’m always exciting about working on a new platform
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Wow... You guys are missing out on a HUGE user base..... you guys definately need a build for Windows Mobile 6.1 / 6.5 touch screen... -
Yep, I'm thinking about the Samsung Omnia, and I would love to be able to use Loopt on it. However, Loopt availability on iPhone will not make me choose it over a Mobile 6.x device (I will not ever get a mobile phone that I can't use as a modem.)
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Yep, I'm thinking about the Samsung Omnia, and I would love to be able to use Loopt on it. However, Loopt availability on other phones (like the iPhone) will not make me choose them over a Mobile 6.x device (I will not ever get a mobile phone that I can't use as a modem.)
How do you determine demand for a WinMo build anyway? If this is it, it's too buried to be accurate. It seems to me that you've already done the most difficult part by making the service work. Now, port it to every platform that's used, starting with the most common to the least, that's how you increase your market. The effort you put into WinMo port is no-brainer worth it. -
+1 Moto Q9c running Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard
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HTC Touch Pro on Sprint here, also 6.x pro :( i so want loopt
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Inappropriate?I use the at&t Tilt. HTC Kaiser 8925, currently running WM 6.1. I hear Loopt is one of the leaders in this area, but a bit shocked it wasn't supported. Only the smartphone version. I have built in GPS etc. would love to see it!!
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Me too, tilt with wm 6.1
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Inappropriate?Add me to the list of someone looking for this. I have the HTC touch and now that loopt is going to be used by my friends with the iphone, i definitely want to keep looped in.
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I have a Samsung Blackjack II on AT&T and would *love* to use Loopt. I will soon be upgrading to a Samsung Mirage and handing off my BJ II to my son, who would also like to use Loopt (he currently has my old Blackjack I).
I’m excited
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we're happy your excited about loopt, ray! we'll let you know once we support the samsung blackjack and mirage :)
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Inappropriate?Yes, please add it to Windows Mobile! I have a Sprint Mogul, and would sign up for Loopt today if there was a client...
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Inappropriate?Same here! I have a Sprint Mogul, and lots of people I know have windows mobile phones. Loopt would be great!
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Inappropriate?I have a Motorola Q 9C with Sprint that runs windows mobile. please make it -
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Inappropriate?I also have a Moto Q9c on Sprint with WM 6.1 and would very much like loopt on it -
Inappropriate?Thanks for the enthusiasm, everyone! We're working hard to get things underway and will let you know when we can support you.
Best,
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Inappropriate?No Loopt for Windows Mobile 6 for smartphones?
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Inappropriate?By the way I am using Blackjack2 AT&T
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Inappropriate?Yet another Sprint Mogul user here (HTC PPC-6800). Loopt looks fascinating and I hope to be able to check it out soon.
I’m confident
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Inappropriate?i want it now!
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Inappropriate?i'm using an HTC touch (winmo pro6), and i'd love to see this program come over to windows mobile devices!
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Inappropriate?Just upgraded from a Treo 700wx to an 800w and really would like this. Brightkite is available for those interested, but maybe not as featuref-full as Loopt? It simply uses a web interface that's geared towards mobile users. I would think Loopt would be able to do something similar until/if they decide to put out a dedicated WM app...
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Inappropriate?HTC Tilt/ kaiser/ tytn II user here... and whatever else they call it =) Would love to see loopt on winmo!
I’m amused
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Inappropriate?I have an AT&T Tilt! I've been wanting to get Loopt on my phone ever since my friends started showing of their iPhone loopt app.
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Inappropriate?I have the Motorola Q9C from Sprint and would love to have this application -
Inappropriate?Another Sprint Mogul user here. I'd love to see this on WM6. Especially on Touch Pros on the VGA screens or Sony Xperia's rockin the 800x400! -
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Inappropriate?Sprint HTC touch over here. Dieing to get this on my WinMo 6.1 Pro -
Inappropriate?I have a Palm Treo 800w and would love to use Loopt!
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Inappropriate?I'd like to use this. I'm on a Moto Q9h with AT&T. My friend with an iPhone was just showing it to me. Neat stuff.
I was considering zkout as an alternative, but I don't particularly like their terms and conditions... made me feel kinda icky and unsafe.
I’m still feeling kinda icky.
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Inappropriate?There's no ETA on WinMo support at this time. WinMo development for location-based applications is challenging since most WinMo devices lack GPS, and location API support is difficult or unavailable on many devices. In addition, each device requires unique development efforts. We continually evaluate new devices and platforms, but please understand that some are more difficult to support than others (if they are supportable at all). Thanks for your patience and enthusiasm!3 Comments Add a comment
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Not a good explanation. As a mobile device developer myself, WinMo makes using GPS easier than other platforms. It is the +only+ mobile platform that permits sharing the GPS device, through the GPS intermediate driver. This allows your app to always know you can get the GPS info without other apps interfering.
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I'm not even a developer and I know that. Because there are generic GPS programs for winmo its definitely not something that needs "unique development efforts".
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The only "unique development efforts" for each phone on WinMo are accommodating the screen size (and of course, these are standardized) and testing to be sure there's enough memory and processor power.
Also, the most popular WinMo phones right now have GPS. The Touch Pro (available on ALL THREE BIG CARRIERS), the Moto Q, the Blackjack II, the Jack... the list goes on.
Plus, on Windows Mobile, you don't need to beg the carrier to pre-install your app. Just add your app to the Windows Mobile Marketplace and your web site.
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Just use the GPS Intermediate Driver introduce in Windows Mobile 5.0. AFAIK this is what google maps uses...
Is it possible for loopt to provide an API that we can use? If that was the case, we could develop something - just need the API to submit the coordinates to (along with username, credentials, etc). If friends locations and information was also published we could use that too.
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While our API is secure and could theoretically be exposed to the world, it's not particularly pretty. We're also in the midst of making some big changes that will make a client written using today's API obsolete within the next 6 months. Perhaps some time in the future?
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Inappropriate?Hi everyone. Yes this would be GREAT. I just went the ATT/Tilt from the Moto Q9. ps. have that for sale for $150.00 with 9 mos on warranty. LOL. My other have has Iphone as I did, but the speaker on iPHone suckes. Anywho, it's a great App. and I'd love to have on the wm format.
Keep Cool. JON beachboyde@aol.com
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Inappropriate?I currently have a Palm Treo 700W on Verizon and am anxiously awaiting the Treo 800W (which has built-in GPS). I would definitely use Loopt if it became available for Windows Mobile phones!
I’m stoked about the possibility
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Inappropriate?There are a lot of groups creating the iPhone apps for Windows Mobiles 5/6 and 6/1 vs the phone devices themselves. When my friends get new iPhone apps I check to see if they're available in WM6.0 for my HTC 8525 (kick ass phone! - sorry Tilt luvrz)... I'm just say'n the cliche thing for the most popular apps out there designed for mobile phones are hitting the iPhone market as well as the winmobile users too. These groups are catching on that "Oh - yeah that would be a good thing on both platforms now wouldn't it). Make one group pay for it or give it to both for free or shareware - just get the apps out there - and if you can't design it for both platforms - then only advertise on apple.com or microsoft.com (eq respect to both design groups). I considered the iPhone and the iTouch,etc. but I likes my 8525 (classic and new age at the same time!)
I’m there!
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Inappropriate?This would rock in a WM format for the many Phone out there.
I would sign up Now if available.
Add me to the list and notify me once its available.
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Inappropriate?I currently have a Treo 800w and looking forward to using loopt but it not available for winmo phones. Please build out loopt so all the winmo users out here can start using this awesome service!!!
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Inappropriate?I'd use it, but I can't because my Sprint Mogul (PPC6800) isn't supported.1 Comment Add a comment
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And still no support for any Windows Mobile Devices as of 10/15/2009
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Inappropriate?I'd like to see it on Windows Mobile Also, there are already alternatives out there (Mologogo, etc) but they aren't nearly as great as Loopt. So if others can similar software function on Windows Mobile why can't Loopt?
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Inappropriate?We wish there were more hours in the day! We're striving to make Loopt available on as many handsets as possible, and we’re up to 100+ handsets. We obviously still have work to do, but unfortunately, we don’t support Windows Mobile devices right now and probably won't be able to for a while due to a number of factors. Thanks for your patience, and if you want to use Loopt right now, take a look at our device coverage: http://www.loopt.com/phones2 Comments Add a comment
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But if you add support for Windows Mobile, you automatically add dozens of more supported devices, and future devices, since you are writing to the platform and not the device.
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What are the factors? I haven't heard one factor unless Blackberry and Apple are kicking you guys money to make sure it doesn't happen.. is the only other reason I can think of. And if it is... that's ok! Business is Business... and that's the way it works sometimes. But there are way more windows mobile users out there than about almost 20-30 of all the phones you have listed combined. So users is not the issue.
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Inappropriate?Back when we first ruled out WinMo the Sprint Mogul had just come out and didn't yet make GPS available to applications. J2ME support was also pretty bad so it looked like we'd need to do an all out port (too much work).
Now it looks like we can get a J2ME version working and actually get GPS from some devices.
I'm not making any promises, but we've had limited success running our latest (currently under development) client on the HTC Tilt and Samsung BlackJack II. We're going to assess how much extra work it would be to really support them, and revisit our WinMo decision. Even if we decide to support WinMo, it's unlikely we'll release anything this year :(
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J2ME? Nevermind. No, thanks.
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Any progress on this? WinMo 6.1 (which included a cellular based GPS) & was an available update for the HTC PPC6800/Mogul & was shipped on HTC Touch, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro just to name a few from just HTC. Rumour is that the HTC Touch Pro 2 will be available in the Aug/Sept time frame. This phone seams to have garnered more attention than the iPhone, or Palm Pre for its pending launch. Then, there is the upcoming WinMo 6.5 due out by Dec2009/Jan2010. Or is support for WinMo products too much of a task to complete?
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Inappropriate?I know on my Tilt I can access information on com4 ( the default ) at 9600 relatively easy. I am just curious what is holding up the development with something like this. Is the trouble coming from finding the position how google maps does by using the location relative to the towers? I am sure every windows mobile user on here (That has a built in GPS) would agree that if we just had a version for now that needed to use the GPS and couldn't use the tower positioning to update loopt we would be happy with that. I understand that when it comes to programming it is always easier said than done, but I would have thought that Windows MO would be easier than most phones out there.
I’m excited
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To be honest, for various reasons, we're stretched pretty thin when it comes to mobile development resources. We don't have the resources right now to write and maintain a native windows mobile client, but JVMs have just recently made it to the point where our J2ME client might work on Windows Mobile in a JVM. Our latest J2ME build works really well on the Tilt, and may eventually be released.
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Inappropriate?I must say... the Windows Mobile systems is one of the top OS out there. Its been around much longer than any other OS and there are hundreds of applications made for it.
I being loopt would have had this in my forecast and would have planned to tackle this task since it would expand the service and brand. I understand development and the challenges of planning and the testing of the process.
It seems to me you have a market in the Windows Mobile arena. I for 1 know I can have my whole sales force and most if not all my territory reps on a system like this. That's over 400 Units which use Windows Mobile...
I’m excited but frustrated
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Inappropriate?Totally agreed with Keenglouie!! Priority, should have been iphone, WM, then others. If you are having success with J2ME then go with that. There are clients to download for free for WM users that let them run Java apps. I would hope Loopt would at least show an effort. Get some beta testers.. let's move on already
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Why would the smallest market share (iphone) be a higher priority than the much larger market share (WinMo)?
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Inappropriate?I am an iPhone user and I really like Loopt a lot, but I like most of the people here will be glad when it crosses more platforms. I find it hard to believe that none of my friends but the ones with iPhones can use Loopt. None of my friends other smartphones are in the supported list... I have one friend I can use Loopt with at this time, but when the support for other devices expands then I will be able to interact with more of my friends through Loopt.
I’m just waiting
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Inappropriate?I'm yet another Sprint Mogul user waiting with baited breath for Loopt... all my friends with iPhones are raving about it and I want to play too!
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Inappropriate?Add me to the list as well!! At&t Tilt running 6.1
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Inappropriate?Please get it out for the HTC Touch Diamond.
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Inappropriate?We have a couple of different devices. The Samsung Ace by Sprint (not sure if it has GPS though) and the Moto Q9c by Sprint. This would be fantastic.
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Inappropriate?this has been long in the works, when can we expect to see some sort of product, even beta?
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Inappropriate?I have my reasons to believe there is no real development being done. See my previous reply... I could be wrong but now we are going on 3-6 months of development or so called development and yet there is nothing....hmm...makes me wonder if there is some type of agreement with Apple for this product.... I still want it
I’m dissapointed with this...
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Inappropriate?It seems like they are on several different kinds of phones, but development for Windows Mobile has got to be easier and/or quicker than this. Even Beta builds would be alright. I am currently using a beta Twitter app that kicks but called PockeTwit. It crashes regularly and ticks me off, but its Beta, I understand its limitations, and it is still the best WiMo twitter app out there.
I would feel the same way about a Loopt app. Make me sign a disclaimer that I understand it is Beta (or Alpha) and that results aren't guaranteed. I think most people would understand.
I'm on Moto Q9c global running 6.0 on AT&T's 3G network, BTW.
I’m frustrated that this still isn't out.
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Inappropriate?Seems like there is tons of excitement for this product! It's been nearly 6 months since I first asked about this. I agree too, with previous posts. and like that like one employee said : "we don’t support Windows Mobile devices right now and probably won't be able to for a while due to a number of factors." BIG Mistake Loopt. I've crossed over to the IPHONE now, and tried loopt, but with only a handful of others on it... uninstalled it. I've done some dev on WINMO, and most phones coming out now have GPS built in, which is readily accessible. I don['t understand the hold up either. What are the "number of factors" ?? Not enough employees? Lack of skills? Lack of funding? It's gotta be some reason. Loopt would rocket to the next level with WM clients. This is obvious. With no app.. you soon will get passed up by other competitors. Good luck.
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Inappropriate?I will continue to monitor this thread, but I have now given up hope of having a WinMo version of Loopt.
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Inappropriate?If there is already a Java version that is working well on the tilt, why not release it to be tested and have bugs sent in, by not supporting winmo, you cut yourself from 80% of the market.
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Inappropriate?Just saw the iphone commercial advertising the loopt app. Set it up on my wife's iphone, then ended up here trying to find a way to set it up on my AT&T Tilt. It seems like there's many others like me by reading this thread. I've used several beta versions of other software. If you have it working on a tilt why not hook us up? -
Inappropriate?I'm getting an AT&T Fuze so I want WinMo support as well.
The build we tested on a Tilt was not beta. It uses a new method of communicating with the server that currently only works against my development machine. All it can do is log in and download friend information; It's incapable of publishing new content.
If and when a beta is available, I'll let you know. We just don't have one yet.
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Inappropriate?I'd like one also. I'm a diehard WinMo user, and don't understand why WinMo support was never planned.
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Inappropriate?I understand the back end network support aspect, but in case you didn't know. The AT&T Fuze is actually the HTC Touch Pro (on Sprint). So the interface is pretty much the same.
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Inappropriate?I'm also using the HTC Touch Pro and would love to have this app - right now using Mologogo but would be great to have something more cross-platform to be able to use with my friends on the iPhone.
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Inappropriate?Currently using the AT&T Fuze (HTC Touch Diamond from HTC, and as metalfreak mentioned it is the Touch Pro Sprint). Would really like to see something make use of my GPS other than Google Maps. Loopt seems to be a much better solution for twitter and for social networking than Britekite.
Unfortunately I'm going to go with whoever decides to support Windows Mobile 6.1 or lower first.
I’m anxious
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Inappropriate?Add me to the many many At&t Tilt users that would really love to see this product released...I am frankly shocked that WiMo devices were not made a priority.
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Inappropriate?I have the Moto Q9... All my friends have the Loopt... Except me.. I miss it.. Lets get the program available soon please... I have the GPS on my phone.... I just would like to see where my friends are ... not just me...
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Inappropriate?Thanks for the heads up a couple weeks back, Nick. I was just curious, what are you guys working on mostly? Is WinMo a priority? Or is it just something sitting on the back burner that gets attention between other more important tasks?
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There are three ways a phone gets Loopt support:
1. A carrier or handset OEM asks us to support it or offers to pre-load it (ship Loopt on the device out of the box).
2. The phone accounts for a large percentage of a carrier's user base. (ex: the Motorola Razr)
3. A developer a Loopt has the phone and makes a build for it on their own time. The iPhone and Nokia N95 builds started this way.
Currently one person at Loopt (not a mobile developer) has a windows mobile phone. There's not a strong internal push for it.
I would love to see a WinMo build, and may myself get an AT&T Fuze.
Sadly, right now it gets attention when we're not busy making a build for a pre-load opportunity, improving the service, or keeping the service up (see twitter threads on GetSatisfaction for one example).
Sorry :(
I’m sad we've failed to deliver a WinMo build for so long.
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Open the API in a way that makes sense. Nick, thanks for the response, but as a person on the west coast who works and deals with this, give an open API and stop making excuses.
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Inappropriate?It's odd that the other smartphones out there besides Blackberries aren't supported by the Loopt network.
I’m Excited but waiting...
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I have many issues with you above explanation:
There are three ways a phone gets Loopt support:
1. A carrier or handset OEM asks us to support it or offers to pre-load it (ship Loopt on the device out of the box).
--In my case, an AT&T Tilt user, you are already supporting AT&T phones.
2. The phone accounts for a large percentage of a carrier's user base. (ex: the Motorola Razr)
--I don't know the figures here but I am willing to bet, if even by this thread, that a "large" percentage if not a majority of any carrier's user base phone's are windows mobile devices. Android devices are considered a large percentage?
3. A developer a Loopt has the phone and makes a build for it on their own time. The iPhone and Nokia N95 builds started this way.
--Call me a skeptic but it really feels like WinMo devices are being ignored on purpose...so people go out and buy more iPhones? I know many devlopers and a great majority are carrying around WinMo devices over Iphone's because the abundance of available software and functionality.
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Inappropriate?So essentially, 6 months of this back and forth banter and no firm commitment/status. We're no better off now than 6 months ago. Hate to be a naysayer here but the actions speak far more than the words. I wouldn't hold my breathe on ever seeing a WinMo build for Loopt.
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Inappropriate?I'm still following this thread. Based upon Nick's reply.
A carrier or handset OEM asks us to support it or offers to pre-load it (ship Loopt on the device out of the box). ..... they are in it for the money. I'm sure Loopt gets some change when it's requested.
2. The phone accounts for a large percentage of a carrier's user base. (ex: the Motorola Razr) --- yea, and WINMO isn't a large percent?
3. A developer a Loopt has the phone and makes a build for it on their own time. The iPhone and Nokia N95 builds started this way.
---- seems to me this all boils down to money/revenue. If a developer has to develop it on their own time... why would they??
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Inappropriate?So the real question at this point, is what is the alternative? Obviously loopt does not consider WiMo to be worth their time. I think loopt has the best location based social networking that I've seen, but if they are going to ignore such a large segment of the mobile world, then oh well. As soon as someone releases something with similar features and supports the iPhone, WiMo, and Blackberry, loopt will be irrelevant at best, and possibly non-existent.
Can we get an honest answer from someone at loopt?
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a) we are currently working on a WiMo build.
b) we are not going to work on a WiMo build, so quit holding your breath.
c) what else is there?
As far as numbers go...
According to this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone] the smartphone marketshare breaks down as follows.
Symbian (46.6%)
iPhone (17.3%)
Blackberry (15.2%)
WiMo (13.6%)
That's an awful lot of WiMo users on multiple carriers, worldwide, that Loopt could be helping.
Just give us something. Pics of your dev builds. Some sort of timeline. Commit to working on it or commit to giving up. And we'll either commit to waiting patiently or we'll give up and quit bothering you.
Just for the record, PockeTwit utilizes my GPS and broadcasts my location to twitter. I can search Twitter based on my present location. And he's tested it doing oneway GPS updates to BriteKite. And it works on all sorts of WiMo phones (contrary to the Loopt comment that says each WiMo phone type requires different development). His interface doesn't lend itself to this, so he hasn't officially released or supported this feature, but still...
I’m tired of this crap.
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Inappropriate?I've have tried several Winmo Location based Apps /socials. Some that come to mind are Gypsii (more geared toward Asians , BrightKite (highly recommended) , Whrrl, Navizon,(pretty good) Ipoki, plus several others I can't think of now. Loopt isn't the only one out there, that's for sure. These guys obviously don't really care about Winmo, unless someone pays for them to do it. Loopt, how much would it take?? I'm sure you'd get many donations from users for it.
I’m tired of the crap too!!
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Inappropriate?I love brightkite, but haven't seen anything that let's me autoupdate my location from GPS. What am I missing?
I'll check out the other ones you mentioned as well.
I’m looking for alternatives
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Gypsii, BrightKite, Whrrl, Navizon, Ipoki
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Inappropriate?Sorry @cruciformity. Auto gps update is available for the IPhone only right now. I'm pretty sure they are working on a WM version. Even manual updates are pretty quick as you can add them as place marks and check in rather quickly. Plus the community is top notch. IMHO.
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Inappropriate?I definitely like the Brightkite community. I also like the various levels of privacy and security that lets me share more info with people I know and trust while still providing general information to everyone else. I think this service/network is going to own the social/location world, especially since it plays nice with FireEagle and Twitter.
I’m wanting to be connected to my friends with location aware social networking.
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Inappropriate?I've given up on a winmo version. I like this discussion heading towards other products as this is not worth the wait. unsubscribed and out! see ya.
I’m tired of waiting.
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Inappropriate?The straight answer:
There are no plans in the next six months to release a native WinMo build. Can't say anything about after that because it's too far in the future.
We're in the process of a complete re-write of our J2ME application, and it currently runs just fine in the JVM on the AT&T Tilt and Blackjack 2. We aren't explicitly targeting WinMo for this project. If when we're done the J2ME application runs on WinMo in a JVM, I'll personally do the extra work to interface with the native GPS support (not accessible from J2ME on WinMo).
None of this is set in stone, and it may change, but it's not likely.
In response to recent comments:
Regarding an API: we don't have anything polished or robust enough to expose to third parties yet. We won't in the next year.
We're not ignoring WinMo to make people buy iPhones. As awesome as it would be if we had that kind of power, we don't. If we did have it, we wouldn't use it that way, since doing so would only hurt us.
It's a time issue, not a money issue.
I truly am sorry. I genuinely want us to support WinMo. But that isn't enough. It simply isn't going to happen soon unless we can get it for free. I know this isn't what any of you want to hear, but it's the honest truth.
I’m sad.
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Well, gees, Mick. If your dev platform admittedly doesn't cut it, move on. Buy a copy of Visual studio and port the app to WinMo in a day.
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Sprint Titan is now available for the HTC products. See http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sprint-... (supports gps) and https://developer.sprint.com/site/glo... ...now, you don't have to write that native GPS code.
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In 6 or more months Loopt will be old news and eventually people will stop using it. I've wanted this on my Treo 800w for as long as I have heard of the app but realize that there is pretty much no chance that it is going to be out soon or even anytime in 09. So sad. I guess I shouldn't have switched from a cheap "free" phone that your product supported to a better phone that I can do anything on(well almost anything) By the time my contract is up and I have a chance to switch phones, I am sure no one is going to care about loopt'd anymore. RIP Loopt
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Inappropriate?Ok, I'm tired of all the same replies about this application that I use to think was cool but now think is just a complete crock! I have been a WinMo use for years and I bet that my secondary phone a G1 running Android will get this before my WinMo phone... "Time issue" blah, blah, blah - more money, more time for development. WinMo, oh gee more market share and more money for that oh so precious TIME.
I’m so over this...
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Inappropriate?Well, thanks Nick for at least being honest (that Winmo isn't on the horizon for at least 6 months. ) Just sad to hear that this loved product really isn't supported anywhere else than the IPhone. How many employees do you have over there? Sounds like Loopt needs more developers.
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Inappropriate?Yeah, we could really use some developers. If you can write code, send your resume to us at jobs@loopt.com and may be we'll hire you!
btw, we do support a multitude of devices (over 200!). it's a long and arduous path to support new devices. thanks for being an understanding audience.
I’m wanting to hire more engineers
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if you put out a winmo release then you can actually brag about how many devices you support but right now your numbers are totally empty.
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Location-Based Services Using CellID in Windows Mobile: http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/...
Developing Location Aware Applications for Windows Mobile: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/a...
Use GPS And Web Maps For Location-Aware Apps: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magaz...
etc etc etc. There is plenty of information, and really the application is not complicated. Many decent developers can do it quite easy. It is just tapping into your system that is impossible because, well, its yours. Hands down.
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lets not forget you can download emulators straight from microsoft for free.. and all of these phone support a standard winmo api.. this is redic
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Inappropriate?Glad to know we now have a straight answer. On to something else.
If you are seriously looking for WiMo developers, list it on your jobs page.
btw... telling us about all your other devices... we don't care and its not helping.
I’m over it.
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Inappropriate?I just saw a story about this service on the news and signed up only to find that my phone is not supported. Now I've been using Windows Mobile since Pocket PC 2002. I currently have an HTC Touch Pro (personal) and Moto Q9c (work) and previously used a Sprint Mogul and a Sprint 6700. I'd love to help beta test if you have a working version.
I’m sad that my phones aren't supported.
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They are not working on it. I too saw a ton about this only to be disappointed.
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Inappropriate?I would so use it if you had a version for the HTC Mogul (Sprint/AT&T) and the motorola Q9H. I think its crap that they come out with apps for the crackberry and the iPhone and leave Windows Mobile in the dust.1 Comment Add a comment
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Based on their most recent updates, it looks like it is going to be up to us WIndows Mobile users to leave loopt in the dust. By the time they come out with a WiMo solution...
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Inappropriate?I have an HTC Touch Pro. I love your product but would really enjoy using it on my Windows Mobile 6.1 based phone. A lot of my friends who have WinMo feel the same way. Just as much as my friends with iPhone.
So any updates? WinMo coming soon?
Thanks for your time, developing a WinMo client will be well worth your money. (at least I think so!)
I’m really wanting this for WinMo
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Inappropriate?long time windows mobile user. There is a huge WinMo base. If you release a build you will see an immediate response
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Inappropriate?Ok, it seems fairly obvious that this product for whatever reason is not going to be supporting WinMo devices anytime soon and I personally don't buy for a second that it is anything more then some deal they have against WinMo with other devices. If it really was a financial issue then they could develope the product and sell it instead of giving it away to the other companies like Apple and PIM (hmmmmm)
So here is the deal, does anyone have suggestions for apps like Loopt? I have tried a few such as Bluemoo and Gippos but they are either lacking users or functionality. So if anyone has any suggestions and if we all start using these apps then either it will put the pressure on Loopt to put out a release for WinMo devices or it will just make Loopt irrelevent. Which at this point either is ok with me.
Why can't there be a product like this developed for all devices? Obviously from the number of ppc sites out there, developing shouldnt be that hard....
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Ok, update on this dead issue. (I like to beat dead horses!) From today's news: LOOPT LAUNCHES ANDRIOD APP!
"Prior to launching its iPhone and then Android apps, Loopt was restricted to carriers with which it had signed contracts, like Verizon and Boost Mobile. Typically, it was a subscription service that cost a few extra dollars per month.
"From the start, our goal has been to build a ubiquitous interoperable network in which customers don't have to worry about who has what provider or mobile device," Loopt CEO Sam Altman said in a release.
link:http://tinyurl.com/5axo7y So, it's really about the contracts after all !! Andriod base is really small right now. Figures.. all BS. Just come out and say 'it's the money' already! We can understand that!
I’m giving up!
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Inappropriate?Loopt folks, just do it already -- lame that you are excluding a segment of users and now that Apple has given you prime time exposure in commercials, you're completely ignoring a segment of users that could really enjoy your service. This is how you lose customers, not keep them.
I’m disappointed.
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Inappropriate?Feeling left out with my ppc6800 (Sprint 'Mogul'). Would LOVE to see a build coming down the tubes in the near future!
If Pandora can do it, I'm sure you can!
:::EDIT:::
After reading more: If it's j2me, we (as a community) should be able to write a port on our own shouldn't we? There is a HUGE and DEDICATED base of developers for WinMo (and all included devices)!
This is where your company would shine as an open source product.
Let the community come together, by building the network together.
The money will come in a charge for access to your central server.
I’m hopeful!
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Inappropriate?I came to Loopt after a recommendation from friends about this. I really wanted to write it up on my tech blog, but when I discovered that Loopt had absolutely NO support for Windows Mobile (ANY versions of it) I was really disappointed. I'm really anxious to have WinMo support by Loopt. I think Loopt will have a surge in their customer base once the word gets out because WinMo users make up a big base of mobile users. Loopt- get WinMo support!!!
PS- I have an HTC Fuze on AT&T.
I’m very frustrated
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Inappropriate?I thankfully have a G1 but am missing out because most of my friends are all running winmo handsets (as I was previously)
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Inappropriate?i'd love to be able to use on my blackjack 2 be able to track where my wife and kids are..
and to know where some friends are
I’m amused
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Inappropriate?anyone that has experience on Micro$oft products knows this is going to be a long wait since they love locking down stuff but also remember since most phones use the internal E911 gps system it takes a lot of red tape cutting to even get the service accessible on these devices to even begin on development.
I’m anxious
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Inappropriate?I'm still surprised at the fact that this won't be worked on in the near future.
I’m extremely disappointed
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Inappropriate?Hey, those guys at Loopt are just bullshitting all of us for no obvious reason. I I bet they got some corp agreement signed with Apple. Because as they can see: Windows development is EASY, there ARE people who would do it even for FREE and there is a handful of devices (like what, 20, 30?) which will be supported by introducing Loopt for WinMo instead of bunch of crappy cellphones they decided to support.
This is bullshit. I hope their competitors get to their asses.
I’m Wishing you guys die in iHell
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where are their competitors? I'll go running to them...lol
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Inappropriate?Among smartphones Windows Mobile has the largest market share and anyone with Visual Studio .NET can develop an application. No application fee, no permission slip from Steve Jobs, no rejection after it's already been completed, no limits (or fees) on distributing it.
Now, provide an intelligent argument about why it wasn't the first (or possibly 2nd after Symbian) platform that Loopt was developed for...
I’m confused
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Inappropriate?Count me in (Plus 1)
There is an ATT Tilt and Samsung BlackJack II in my household and we'd love to be loopt.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?its just dumb guys. It's been 8 months since this thread started and still nothing. Writing location-based application for Windows mobile is not complicated (they even have videos on MSDN). Unfortunately, I do smell "politics" on this issue. too bad...ug
I’m *really* frustrated
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Inappropriate?For anybody still tracking this, Google Latitude has just been released and it totally supports Windows Mobile. Check it out:
http://google.com/latitude
Sorry, Loopt!
I’m amused
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Thanks! Using it now with my buddy who has a Blackberry Storm love it.
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Inappropriate?Once google adds iPhone support and a few of the selective security options of BrightKite, loopt will be out of the picture entirely. Too bad loopt didn't take the Windows market seriously.
Good luck, Loopt. In watching independent hobbyist development of some really killer WiMo apps, 8 months is not only enough time to get a beta out, it is enough time to develop a fairly killer app.
I love, BTW, that this thread shows up on the Loopt Get Satisfaction front page. Great illustration of their commitments and customer service skills.
I’m excited about Google Latitude
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Inappropriate?Google Latitude is your solution! Check it out... it's better than Loopt and a bigger base.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/0...
www.google.com/latitude
Thanks for nothing Loopt. =)
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?I just came back here to post about http://google.com/latitude but it looks like you all beat me to the punch. I would pretty much guess this means the death of loopt. Sorry guys, but your product just became obsolete.
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Inappropriate?Latitude works great!
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Inappropriate?so it seems like they just want to mainly support cheap phones not the higher end ones like the HTC Touch Pro or the voyager which i have. either of my phones support loopt but now i will try latitude!
I’m sad that loopt didnt think that winmo users are not important to their business
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Inappropriate?Need winmo support badly!
Sick of my snobby iPhone family, and would love to show them that developers aren't hardcore bandwagoners and would support a platform that has a HUGE install base aside from the press..,
My GF and I have been wimo peeps for 4 years.... Just put 6.5 on my Touch Pro (AT&T) and it is GREAT! Its like a touchscreen Zune!
Loopt for iPhone ----- Like yesterday!
I’m iDepressed about all the iHate about WinMo
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Inappropriate?support@loopt.com
Let's start a grassroots campaign! Everyone needs to contact loopt support and tell them how disapointed they are with this issue.
Time to make them take notice...
I’m ready for things to change...
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Inappropriate?Well guys its been about a year since the initial question was asked and i have read the developers comments (loved the polite denial for the API) and this is what i would official call the run around doesnt look like we will get windows mobile support even though in supporting windows mobile it opens up soooooo many more devices and one would think that they would want to support as many devices as possible but it appears they dont care
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?So I had to login before I could comment we'll try this again. I'm happy Google could get Latitude out for Windows Mobile with a 20% project. Any way too bad that Loopt is in bed with Steve Jobs and his inferior iPhone. Hey iPhone fanboy, call me when you can copy and paste.
I’m a jerk
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Inappropriate?A loopt for Windows Mobile devices would be great. I personally am on a HTC Touch Pro. Although I think that maybe just making a generic winmo client would be a good option. Not sure if its possible but theres a chance it is. So perhaps a generic VGA version and and QVGA version are in order.
I’m hoping
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Inappropriate?Not having support for windows mobile platform these days is a big mistake. Full Cross platform compatibility is something always makes or breaks software.
I’m not surprised.
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Inappropriate?My last phone did not support either, When I got my new phone "HTC Touch Diamond" with WinMo 6.1. I was told/shown about Loopt from a friend that has a Blackberry. I did not even think for a second there would be no app for windows mobile. I just assumed it would, I never would of thought in a million years that it would not be on WinMo. So I bought my phone, and low and behold you don't! Wow. Talk about customers loss, My Fortune 500 company I work for requires WinMo and Blackberry's for all sales staff nationwide. 29 Thousand sales people! So everyone knows how to use the devices, they are distributed half and half! I can't even fathom how you do not have a windows mobile version. Your companies loss. So sad.
I’m highly upset
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