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4d replied on March 21, 2008 01:50 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

lol...yeah, this topics gunna be LONG...that's why i shouted to all my friends, i figured the more people we got on here the better...i think infernal's idea of scaling by a common factor is best if they must do that, but still need something to compensate all the top players because all that does is make them easier to catch which shouldn't be the only reason for doing it

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4d replied on March 21, 2008 01:19 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

hmm...i was thinking about this before when i cashed all my later ending positions out...lets say i have 100k and i bet 5,000 at 12% that bush would attack iran by the end of his presidency....on april 1, it gets scaled(lets assume by 5 each quarter) down to 1,000...july 1, its at 200..oct.1=40...jan1=8 and then he attacks on jan 3 instead of 40k, i only get 64...this is why i cashed all those bets in....if you cash them in at end of quarter(per AAA hehe), this would also screw this position up because it's not very popular...either way scaling may just kill all the long term wagers
also, would this change the percentages of markets?...lets say there's 3 players in a market that started 50/50...players 1&2 each throw 2,000 on yes and player 3 throws in 1,000 on no....the percentages should be around 80/20 now....if player 1 is scaled 50%, player 2 scaled 75% and player 3 only 20%, there's now 1,000+500=1500 on yes and 800 on no...wouldn't this change the percentage to roughly 67-33, thereby giving the lesser scaled players an added advantage?

hmm...i may have to change my vote...i dunno, i'm wishy-washy

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4d replied on March 20, 2008 23:43 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

at the time, yes i cashed out of all predictions that ended conceivably after april 1...later i cashed in every prediction when i went all psycho and threw my temper tantrum, but have since re-joined some that end in april, but i'm not touching any after that...it does cut down on the long-term bets tho because we join those based on the end result and if the wager is getting scaled down, especially multiple times, i'd rather have the cash and hope i can get in at a comparable percentage later

4d replied on March 20, 2008 23:21 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

i dunno how to vote...i can see destry's point where it penalizes the top people and jerry's about the multiple downgrades of the original wager...i think if you set the weekly gain as the default leaderboard it will help the morale of newcomers...as to average american's suggestion, if you cashed out every position, you'd have to do them all simultaneously or else then you get into who gets to go first and such....(not that i'd do this, but for ease of explanation) if i knew the cash-out was coming, i could go ahead and cash out all my positions, then find a Q with a 0% odds and just keep placing $100 bets on it...this would artificially raise my net worth because of the multiple bets and when cash-out would happen i could have increased my worth alot....also, if we do get scaled down, then go broke later without an option to use any of the old quarter's money how many people would stay and keep logging in each day for $20? i think most people would just wait until the new quarter for the next reset....that's a long time to wait and we could lose some of our best people....needs some tweaking....guess i'd give it a 6

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4d replied on March 20, 2008 21:16 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

this coming from the person who felt the need to cheat

4d replied on March 20, 2008 21:10 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

u apparently think its for gaming and meeting chicks since it's soooo imperative for u to be able to tell who's a female

4d replied on March 20, 2008 21:06 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

i just got back...one thing i thought of was that i have heard about pimping out our pages...why not open a hubdub emporium where the top users can spend cash to pimp their profile and then a hubdub pawn palace in case someone runs out of money, they can sell back their bling for like 20 or 30% or something....inevitably, there will be the bill gates or warren buffett's of hubdub with no bling and no friends(read crudsy :P) and then the gangsta's or whatever

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4d replied on March 20, 2008 19:32 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

wow...destry's popular

4d replied on March 20, 2008 19:30 to the discussion "Settlement of Feb. 5 Markets (Please Discuss)" in Hubdub:

looks good to me ryan...however, this question should be included i think http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Who_wi...

4d replied on March 20, 2008 18:55 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

i have noticed a definite difference of opinion between those with more cash and those with less cash, not only on here but the comment boards as well.....the less active/less cash people are probably going to feel alienated and wonder why they're even trying and those with more cash aren't going to mind as much with one major concern being jerry's which i agree with also...it'll add more fun and competitiveness for those in front, but if everyone is subject to it you might end up alienating people more than the huge amounts on the leaderboard would...whatever happens is fine with me, but i just hope it doesn't turn off a greater percentage of people than doing nothing would

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4d replied on March 20, 2008 18:26 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

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Pics I tried to respond but it wouldn't let me sign in (said it didn't know my e-mail or password) and when I tried to create an account it wouldn't let me because my e-mail was already used. so here is my response and you can post it for me

4d did a shout out to me to join this discussion. I agree with all of you to some point. I like 4d's suggestion to scale back those over a set H$ point, but I also agree with Jerry that once a wager is scaled back it should not be done again in another quarter. I also like the idea that you can bank your previous earnings but only touch them if you are down to zero and that would reduce your amount on the all-time board. I know it's all proporation but I have worked really hard to bring myself back from the brink of nothing (early Feb. markets killed me). It be nice to know that I can keep my modest 11k to 16k (depends on today's close) and give me a chance to compete with the top dogs. I hope they go with the suggestion to scale back those that are over 20k and leave us that's under 20k alone so that it can be more competive. And don't forget that you get that additional H$20 every day you log in. Just my .02 worth.
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4d replied on March 20, 2008 17:54 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

well, actually i meant for them to just reset those players above a certain amount and keep their score on an all time leaderboard...or maybe put it in a vault to where if they went broke in a later quarter would be the only time they'd be able to get some of it back and it would decrease they're all-time score....if they could just dip into it at any time it'd be kinda pointless

4d replied on March 20, 2008 17:35 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:

when i first heard about it, i went thru and cashed out all my bets that were going to finish after the new quarter