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Hi Cosmo,

does this still happen with the new version of the addon (0.6.0) and Songbird 1.0rc2, because a lot has changed in both since.

thanks.

Hello ruipenunes,
I'm finally getting round to you - I hope you get email-notified of comments!
Some things you said I really like and have implemented, some things you said I also like but haven't done yet, and some things just aren't possible.

I've done 'Play Next' and 'Play Last', except I've called them 'Queue Next' 'Queue Last' because the 'now playing' mode is different to the 'queue/custom' mode. For reasons on why I've designed the addon with two modes you can read this article that I wrote to explain this. I know it can be confusing to people coming from other media players. If you don't like this, then I'm sorry but this is the way it has to be for now.

I also wanted to add hotkeys to these commands but for some reason the code didn't work....

For 'Play Now' you can just double-click the track. I know you and lots of others said that double-clicking should add the track to the queue instead of just playing it but this would be a huge departure from the expected behaviour. I'm not sure what the behaviour in Winamp is though, but this idea could theoretically be done, it's just not a priority. I'll most likely implement it as an option later on.

I think that the addon already saves the contents of the playlist across sessions. By 'save' I mean not delete. Are you referring to the 'now playing' mode or the custom/queue mode? Because the 'now playing' mode will by definition start empty as Songbird starts with nothing playing.

A lot of the other suggestions such as changing the interface of Songbird are outside the scope of the extension.

I think it is also important to keep in mind that Songbird is primarily used to gather and organise music libraries. It is not a stand-alone player like Real Player (correct me if I'm wrong). What I mean by this is that you would never see a 'Songbird Player' embedded in a webpage for instance. Does this make sense?

Cheers!

Fixed in the next version of the add-on which has been uploaded. It no longer works with Songbird 0.7 though, so you have to be using 1.0RC2 or wait for Songbird 1.0 to be officially released.

Awesome! I add music to my library so often I really NEED a watch folder feature! – Carlos K, on November 19, 2008 04:35

If you install The Exorcist, a media view whose purpose is to clean up duplicate and missing (ghost) tracks from your library. – Carlos K, on November 19, 2008 04:35

We have a bug open in Bugzilla concerning this. To track the comments on this work item:

1. Go to the "people" box in the upper right hand corner of bug #2303;

2. Add your email in the "add cc" box;

3. Scroll down and hit commit.

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Just deleted old version, then had to clean up directory after it, installed V0.7. Even worse! Takes minutes to load (on a 3 gig twin core pentium with 3G memory), starts at 270G and creeps up about 1meg per minute even with nothing playing. Remembered old settings for add ons and library even though I used the uninstall before and cleaned the songbird directory.
I asked it to search for something in the library and it hung at 50% for ever.
0/10, giving up, staying with iTunes even though I hate it.
Hopefully someone else will build something IPOD compatable one day, this isn't it. Start with a working kernel before hanging "nice to have" stuff all over it.

Even if what I'm saying is not "possible" or whatever you want to call it, why not throw in a switch in the code to turn off the web browsing?

I would most certainly agree, if they REALLY need a browser inside songbird, why not take some of Mozillas basic website engines and make it take up a smaller footprint. That way you don't have to have a huge memory allocation to it. Better yet, work on making the media player efficient that way the browser doesn't get overwhelmed.

i im suffering from this as well. i think that the songbird team should ditch the web browser and work on making a great media player, adding the browser once the media player is excellent.

Just for the record, songbird is now using more memory than my windows 2003 VM. With 100 songs in playlist and two shoutcast streams. That's f***ing amazing.

This isn't fixed! It still leaks ~1M of memory every minute if not more. Pretending its fixed doesn't make the problem go away. Why is this marked fixed??

yes me too. hot keys for rating would be nice

Of course I agree, & I suspect the others here would as well; such features should at the very least toggle on & off, -but hopefully be fully adjustable.
(maybe with a standard, & "expert" mode?)

-I like the two-tiered approach of iTunes & foobar with some real-time compensation (like sound-check) & track gain adjustments remembered in track info or meta-data.

-This works fairly well in iTunes, though some more adjustability would be nice.
They seem to have erred on the side of unobtrusive transparency with sound-check, so there can still be too great of volume changes in some situations.

I think there is a big difference between what kind of behavior you might want:

A. while giving your full attention to a classical/jazz/etc. performance, -possibly through expensive headphones,
(-you turn any "compression" etc. off, & listen to the performance as the artists intended..)
vs. :
B. watching TV late at night,
(Want to understand speech, but not disturb others..)

C. listening to your tunes or radio while working.
(-when a predictable, consistent, manageable, quiet-yet-audible, volume level might be the priority..)

D. listening on small or laptop speakers.
(when preventing distortion on peaks is most important..)

Excellent. I'd love to be able to use the media keys on my Mac. – Dustin, on November 16, 2008 22:35

I too would like to be able to use the play/pause, stop, next/prev keys on my keyboard to control songbird.

I am surprised there is not a "now playing" display pane. There seems to be a now playing add-on, but it does not seem to be available for Songbird 1.0.

Renaming & moving song files based on metadata is something big for me to keep my music library organized. I currently use foobar2000 to do this, but it would be nice if it were integrated into songbird.

In case a song doesn't have metadata, it would be nice if you could create it from file name/directory structure.

Auto-numbering is also nice. In case track numbers are blank, I could highlight the tracks in the order in which they should be, and then auto-number would automatically give them track numbers.

YEAH! I vote with these guys, this is a MUST have!!

I'll try the add-ons thing but i'm pretty sure it's something to do with my network permissions. When i change the download location to my c drive it works ok, but when i try to download to my NAS nothing happens.

cheers for the link martin, im all for which ever way song bird chooses to over come the problem as long as it doesn't change the dynamics and you can turn it on and off. – hugh, on November 15, 2008 10:29