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I would have expected single key letters to appear, but I cannot entirely discount that it is the same bug as the one I originally described.

Unless I manage to forget, I will update this conversation when a new version of Bespin is included that should address the issue. – Christian Sonne, on November 27, 2009 09:44

Not sure if there's an easier way, one way of doing that is to reset extensions.ubiquity.repeat.keycode and extensions.ubiquity.repeat.keymodifier in about:config – Christian Sonne, on November 27, 2009 06:00

Gazs it is :-)

I am very puzzled by your problem though. Do you have any non-standard commands installed? And does the problem go away if you disable Ubiquity?

Hi Körtesi.

Note: I wrote the following (under the line) before I noticed you wrote "anywhere in Firefox" and thought you meant in the code editor in about:ubiquity. If it is indeed true that you cannot use those chars *anywhere*, please disregard my answer and please comment indicating that this is indeed the case.

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This is a know problem, which I unfortunately did not know about when I included Bespin (the new editor, and another Mozilla Labs project) into Ubiquity. Jetpack (yet another labs project) also uses this editor, so I thought it was safe.

Actually, accented or indeed any char is fine, as long as it doesn't require more than one consecutive key press (simultaneous is fine), so if your keyboard has a single button for the letter it should be fine. Noteworthy in this area are is Japanese IME programs used to enter Japanese text (I presume the same problems exists for Chinese and similar languages) are not even activated in Bespin, so that is equally problematic.

The good news is that I have alerted the Bespin team of this problem, and they are actively discussing options to fix this issue. As a test of one option (I suggested) try entering letters in the disabled text area (bottom) here: http://users.skumleren.net/cers/test/... The active one (top) acts as proxy for the input, and is visible here for debug purposes. If compatible with Bespin, this approach should fix both these problems.

If it is not possible to fix the problem before too long, we will revert to having the option of using a plain text area instead of the fancy one.

Best regards, and thank you for taking the time to contact us on this issue.
-- cers / Christian Sonne

Hi Cef.

You are right in assuming that it is not a new idea, however, it is much more complicated that I suspect you think.

The reason what happens in one tab will crash Firefox in it's entirety, is that everything runs in a single process. This is also why you only see one process in Taskmanager. Rewriting software as complex as Firefox is not easy, but there are people working on it: http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/05/fu...

I cannot give you a time-table, and I don't know if one even exist -- however, I can assure you that we are many who are looking forward to having this in Firefox :-)

Fennec (the mobile version of Firefox) has recently implemented multi process rendering, so I take that as a good sign: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/200...

I hope this shed some light on the subject.

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne

Hi Sandy.

I think your problem is that Internet Explorer opens a brand new window for each article, while Firefox loads the article in a tab. Tabbed browsing is one of the many features that might seem confusing at first, yet will prove very useful once you have gotten used to them.

Here is some background on them: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/...

I've taken a screenshot of how this might look if you go to buzzflash and click the first article:

If you click the red x I've drawn an arrow towards, instead of the one in the far top right corner, you should be taken back to buzzflash instead of to your desktop.

If it turns out you really prefer having one window per article, like your Internet Explorer has it, you can go to Tools->Options->Tabs and un-check the first option: "Open new windows in a new tab instead".

Here are further details on tab-related settings: http://support.mozilla.com/da/kb/Opti...

Please do not hesitate to let me know if you need further assistance or clarification on changing settings or tabbed browsing.

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne

If you go to this url resource://ubiquity/standard-feeds/email.html (probably won't look like an url here, so just copy it into your location bar), you should be prompted to install the command again.

Alternatively, if you go to about:ubiquity?cmdlist and scroll down to the very bottom, you might be able to find it under "Unsubscribed Feeds" and just click "resubscribe".

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne

I'm not entirely sure this is the same problem, but there has been some discussion on the issue of Jetpack and Firebug in groups recently: http://groups.google.com/group/mozill...

Perhaps something there answers your question.

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne

I can assure you that at the very least they are noticed.

I rarely personally react to new ideas or suggestions (but I do read them), especially if they are not for a product I work on myself. There are several reasons for this;
1) often, I would not be qualified to assess and address them properly
2) most projects I have a hand in already have long lists of improvements and issues to be worked on.

This is not to say that ideas are not welcome - not at all - but most developers are usually hard at work on new ideas already, and that sometimes makes it hard to take time out to do public outreach.

If you have a specific idea you would like input on, I would suggest that you join the relevant irc-channel or mailing list/group and take it up there - while there are slow days (how often depends on the project) there too, you are much more likely to get a timely response and/or discussion on the merits of the idea.

I hope that reassured you a bit in your efforts.

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne

You can review and delete any and all saved passwords by going to Tools->Options (if you're not using windows, see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Menu_differ... for how to get to your preferences) then going to the "Security" tab and clicking "Saved Passwords..."

There you should see all the stored passwords, and you can simply select one and click "Remove".

If this does not resolve the problem, do not hesitate to write back.

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne

Upon further inspection, I cannot find any reference to the old filename, so unless that's because the bug has already been fixed in the development version, I'm not sure where what you see comes from.

What version of Ubiquity are you running? – Christian Sonne, on October 18, 2009 15:18

I'm not sure why it triggers on each new tab, but bug 19 has to do with growl not being available. http://ubiquity.mozilla.com/trac/tick...

The reason you see that error, is because the filename changed to bug19warning.xhtml (instead of .html) and someone obviously forgot to update the reference.

I will make sure to update it so this exact problem should be fixed in the next beta, or in the latest development version (very soon)

On the short term, the best way you can past it is to install growl. I don't have a mac myself, so I can't be of much help there, I'm afraid.

Best regards, and thanks for letting us know.
-- cers / Christian Sonne

Hello Whecko.

The problem is that when a flash object has focus (like it gets when you click on it to play), it will steal all keyboard input. You should also notice that once you have clicked the video, you can't even refresh the page by pressing Ctrl+R.

Unfortunately, there isn't much we on the Ubiquity team can do about this, as it is a general problem with Firefox. This is the bugzilla entry https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug... and as you can see from the age of the bug, and the amount of discussion, it is neither a trivial problem, nor especially likely to get fixed any time soon.

I can assure you though, that you are not alone in your gripe; I too find it quite annoying that none of my keyboard shortcuts work while flash has focus.

Best wishes, and thank you for taking the time to report this to us - feedback is always welcome.
-- cers / Christian Sonne

Hi Marilyn.

I am afraid there is no way to unsend an email, once it has left your outbox.

Usually, the server will only try somewhere in the region of 1-3 times to deliver the mail before finally giving up, so it is unlikely you will get more than a few messages about it being undeliverable, and then perhaps a final notice that the mailserver has given up.

Should the problem persist, you can set up a filter to automatically discard the emails in the future by going to Tools->Message Filters.

For more information on filters, see this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Filters_%28...

Best regards,
Christian Sonne

Just to make sure I understand, you get a warning saying "Ubiquity setup failed", but Ubiquity still works? - if so, that does sound strange...

Could I get you to list the version of Firefox you're using, along with any other extensions (and their respective versions)?

As a possible remedy, you can try downloading the latest beta version of Ubiquity here: http://ubiquity.mozilla.com/xpi/ubiqu...

Best regards,
Christian Sonne

I am not entirely sure where the command stores the generated search command, however if you are willing to start from scratch, you can read about how to do it in these three blog posts:
http://geeksbynature.dk/?p=4
http://geeksbynature.dk/?p=24
http://geeksbynature.dk/?p=30

The API has changed a lot between the posts, but the basics are not repeated in the later posts, so the best thing would be if you read them in order.

Best regards,
cers / Christian Sonne

Disclaimer: I do not work on the Thunderbird project, so you might get a more qualified answer after this, however I saw your predicament and figured I'd try my best to explain what happened and why (to the best of my understanding.)

First I realize this (regrettably) might not be something a regular user will know, but this is exactly how the POP protocol is designed to work, as opposed to IMAP. As soon as you download a message from a POP server, it deletes it and you now have the only copy.

A method for circumventing this system, is to download only the message headers, and then selectively download the actual message later, thus keeping it on the server in the meantime.

I would encourage you to see if your email-provider supports IMAP, and switch to that to avoid further issues like this.

As for the present problem, I do not know of any viable solution to push the messages back to the server, however you might be able to find an extension to Thunderbird that will let you bulk forward the messages to yourself (possibly while even preserving the From and Reply-To fields), thus leaving the messages on the server once again. If the number is not too great, you can forward them by hand instead.

I know this is not a perfect solution, but I hope that it might be enough to remedy your current situation.

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne
Ubiquity@Mozilla Labs

I suppose there could be a long list of reason why the setup could fail, though personally, I've only seen it caused by an error in the localization of the parser...

You aren't by any chance running Ubiquity in a language different from English?

In any case, can you see if there are any errors reported in the Error Console? (Tools->Error Console)

Best regards,
-- cers / Christian Sonne