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epicur's reply to "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" was just promoted to the most useful! kruijs and 2 other people think it's one of the best replies.
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Hello Everyone
Well, it's taken me a while to catch up on all this impassioned commenting and I am truly sad to see that things have spiralled downwards into such personal and embittered attacks.
It is clear that the question should have been voided. It may have helped if someone had flagged the question at some point (it received no flags at any point). There have also been lessons learned about dealing with different currencies. I will consider amending the rules if we think it is necessary.
I'm not going to lower myself to discussing the rights and wrongs of who called whom which name and what that name actually means. Frankly, I spend more than enough time refereeing between my children, I'm not about to start doing the same thing here.
To the more pressing issue... the responsbilities of a Super User. Yes, with the rights come responsibilities. And yes, we thought very carefully before picking the current Super Users, and yes we did choose them, amongst other reasons, because we felt that they would give a balanced view and judgement. We did not, however, ask them to be "representatives" of Hubdub, nor have they signed any contract with us. They are simply enthusiastic users with the ability to Suspend questions. The "responsibility" is that they will help in policing the game. So far they have all been doing an outstanding job. We do not expect Super Users to react in the same manner as Admins - they are not being paid and are doing it for the love of the game.
The Super User concept is obviously beta, and we are, as always, open to suggestions on how we can improve things, so all genuine suggestions will be taken on board. If you all have any thoughts or ideas on how best to improve the concept, then I suggest opening a new thread here (and doing it without the flamewars please. Life is too short).
Lesley.
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
Just what I thought :) – kruijs, on June 05, 2008 05:55
A comment on the question "How do you become a super user?" in Hubdub:
That's cool, I really like that idea – kruijs, on June 05, 2008 05:39
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
Yes, I do understand and it was my intention.
And that actually is my feeling about you. Sorry to say so but that feeling grew while the comments kept coming in. – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:58
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
if we point you at a misunderstanding, epicur, and you refuse to read the argument, that's ignorant. but feel free to get an opinion from the admins. – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:49
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
right, but you put a link to it here, and I think, one who is interested in this topic will read the comments first. well, actually I just hope so. – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:44
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
no, they did not give us any responsibility. at best, they expect some assistance in running the game. epicur, would you please read the
http://www.hubdub.com/public/help#sup... section again? – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:40
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
Oh, in case you meant the comments on Hubdub: Did you notice that little "s" badge along with my username? Sure you did. So do others. – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:37
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
I just wanted to say that I DID CLEARLY STATE in my comment that I AM "part of this argument". – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:34
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
I did not attack YOUR common sense (#13). Nevertheless I apologized for you feeling offended by my post (#24). – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:32
A comment on the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
"The make one thing clear: In a role as so called "Super User" I am not a representative of HUBDUB" is my first reply in this thread. – kruijs, on June 04, 2008 20:26
kruijs replied on June 04, 2008 20:20 to the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
I for my part have said what is my opinion on both the question and it's issues and about how the conversation between people worked in this context.
I feel the conversation has left a reasonable level of arguing and tends to get more like a personal thing.
This is the point where there will be no consensus possible any more.
kruijs replied on June 04, 2008 20:10 to the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
epicur,
because you just read the Hubdub description about Super Users, I assume that you did not have read it before and so you used the term without knowledge of its meaning until now.
anyway don't you think we Super Users (and I mean mork too) tried to do "Keep an eye on the comments for inappropriateness and problems, reporting or resolving them as necessary" in this case?
unfortunately it got out of hand somehow ...
first, you posted a comment because of the incorrect settlement of the question. Comment #9. The question had been re-settled in the mean time.
There was a discussion about that and how that could happen.
That seemed to be not enough for you as you came along and posted comment #17+#18, directly offending mork along with a clearly incorrect interpretation of the fine. (followed by #19+#20).
mork conceded as a response to those (and to issues raised in the discussion) in comment #23+#26
it was enough at that point actually - but not for you. you did not show any willingness along the discussion to make concessions, have an understanding, or to get to a compromise. In this way you looked very aggressive to me, and I assume to others too. This impression is underlined by you starting this thread, about the role of a Super User - even without knowledge of what a Super User is by the definition of HubDub.
PS many people have posted in the meantime while I've been typing this.-
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kruijs replied on June 04, 2008 19:33 to the problem "A Hubdub representative (super user Mork) not being a good role model for Hubdub?" in Hubdub:
The make one thing clear: In a role as so called "Super User" I am not a representative of HUBDUB
Neither is any of the other Super Users.
We got a badge because they thought we were reasonable players of the game.
Please read this, epicur:
http://www.hubdub.com/public/help#sup...
A comment on the idea "Highest Net Worth Reached??" in Hubdub:
The graph will not be able to combine two user profiles in one, I assume :) – kruijs, on June 01, 2008 18:18
A comment on the problem ""Question suspends in" clock is off by an hour" in Hubdub:
infernalmachine, thanks for the hint: it's a cool plugin, very usefull – kruijs, on May 31, 2008 17:45
A comment on the problem ""Question suspends in" clock is off by an hour" in Hubdub:
oh, you can't state you state - I see it's meaningless than. – kruijs, on May 31, 2008 14:28
A comment on the problem ""Question suspends in" clock is off by an hour" in Hubdub:
you have a country setting in your account details – kruijs, on May 30, 2008 22:00
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