Ucana's ALTS and Puma trying to destroy spymaster and ruin the fun for others
There are a few Ucana alt accounts running around with STOLEN points using the merge exploit killing everyone using suicide.
there's no doubt KEYSERS0ZE422 exploited the system since his stats are
Spymasters * 3,749 and he only has 2,210 twitter followers
Attack * 7,914,740
Defense * 11,271,056
He has used the STOLEN points to kill me 5 times in 1 hour

there's no doubt KEYSERS0ZE422 exploited the system since his stats are
Spymasters * 3,749 and he only has 2,210 twitter followers
Attack * 7,914,740
Defense * 11,271,056
He has used the STOLEN points to kill me 5 times in 1 hour

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Inappropriate?KEYSERS0ZE422 killed you.
He did it with a suicide. I havent been doing anything but tasking since yesterday and out of nowhere I'm dead.
PUMA broke the game yesterday and today they are making it unplayable.
Something needs to be done. Why do they have so many points to be able to suicide over and over.
It's time to start banning these people so we can get back to some normalcy. If you let them continue this people are going to quit.
I’m sad
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Me too Scotty me too! -
I am a PUMA clan member, and even I was killed. So like i said in another comment down further, please don't blame all of us for this.
"KEYSERS0ZE422 killed you and collected your bounty. Your bounty was worth a total of $270.0K and was funded by..." -
me too Stevo, wish I had a screen shot of it as proof, but same acc killed me too... -
yeah i go for ban ucana -
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Inappropriate?I've only been killed 3 times since I logged on about two hours ago and of those it was twice in half an hour. Along with all the others that are getting hit constantly... they are pure suicide attacks as there were no other 'woundings' etc to take out my health and I wasn't doing any assassinations at all.
Am on a diff computer otherwise I would add my screen cap too.
Please put a stop to this blatant cheating and vindictive twisting of the games' intent. We want to play, and have some fun, but this person has destroyed not only the monetary system, but also the points system. Apparently the 'clean up' didn't affect him.
Or he's found yet another way to cheat.
What does it take before you will ban an IP address?
I’m getting fed up with Ucana/KEYSER geezer, and his many MANY other alternate accounts.
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Inappropriate?Rumor has it that is was you that pulled it off, as a spymaster frameup job. If so, you deserve a badge. Thanks for the trillions.. I gave m back
I’m thinkn its a game
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Inappropriate?KEYSERS0ZE422 Killed you.
The thing is if you ban this person they will just come back with another one of their ALT's. I pointed out early on (3 months ago) http://getsatisfaction.com/spymaster/... that ALT accounts were being used to exploit the game. The problem is ALT accounts have ruined the game. I think the Directorate should come down hard and say that using multiple accounts to manipulate the game is a BANNED offense which will be strictly enforced. Today I was killed by Vertago1 with assist by BALLERJASON. Then I learned that Snarfspy is Vertago1 by his tweet to me from last month which used to say FROM Vertago but now says FROM Snarfspy. Obviously Jason has been busy manipulating his twitter accounts to the demise of other players.
Ucana422 is not the only one using multiple accounts. It is widespread and rampant throughout the game. I have learned that most people have two or more accounts, which was a big surprise to me when I first learned of the merging of accounts a month ago.
Alternatively the Directorate should legitimize multiple accounts. However make a maximum of 3 (for the 3 intelligence agencies) as a limit. These accounts must not interact in any way or all 3 will be banned and twitter and Facebook notified as appropriate (to show how serious you are).
I have played fair and worked hard to get my Att/Def scores up. It is a sad day when this sort of game exploit occurs and comes down to name calling like it did today at Pod's site. Then after Pod banned SimplyQua several people were attacked and subsequently killed by KEYSERS0ZE422. Which begs the question, how many accounts does Qua have? This sort of thing goes on and on.
In brief I just want fair rules that will be enforced. I realize with staffing you are not able to deal with petty issues as these may seem. But I think they are important enough that without some rule of law, the game is corrupt and no fun. I'm ready to call it quits.
I’m vexed
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Cats not everyone who has more than one account is cheating.
I have a couple of accounts mainly because I get totally bored sitting around twiddling my thumbs waiting for energy to renew. It's just 28 points every 5 minutes. So if you have no energy and you are making hits that take 44-45 points, it's at least 10 minutes to make one hit... how can that be an engaging and interesting game? It's as boring as all hell.
So I have a couple of other accounts I play, just to pass the time while I wait for my main account to regenerate energy for another single hit... so say 6 maybe 7 hits an hour? Not exactly a way to keep interest up in a game. But having the other accounts gives me something to keep the interest while enjoying the company and reparte of friends I'm making. Otherwise I'd be wandering off doing other stuff and quickly forgetting all about this game. :) -
Of course not everyone with more than one account is cheating. I totally understand why you have more than one. That is a great point to pass on to the Directorate. People get bored. Why 5 minutes anyway?? Why not 3 minutes? Seems arbitrary anyway. The game should entertain YOU; not YOU looking for entertainment between plays of the game. You should not EVER have to wait to perform game functions. But under this game structure we are all stuck twittling our thumbs often times waiting for the clock countdown. -
That is the Spymaster Fail Whale -
Just to clarify: BallerJason is not Vertago/SnarfSpy, and Vertago is not Jason. -
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Here's my screenshot: I placed bounties on a number of players I've been sparring with, and literally, within MINUTES, all of those bounties were claimed by one of two players: KEYSERSOZE422 and TH3_422. And in one case, TH3_422 **killed** KEYSERSOZE422, to claim a bounty I placed on his (Keyser's) head...and yet, just 2 minutes later, (a should be dead) KEYSERSOZE422 regenerated to kill me.
Are there points you can use to return from the dead in less than 2 minutes, or to kill very strong players in just one hit, non-suicide?
Wow!
.LAG (aka @boycaught)
I’m unsure
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Inappropriate?UCana is mad. Flooding the spymaster's economy is just the most visible sign of his madness.
The problem for IrataLabs was to correct the harm done to SpyMaster, but they don't have had enough time to investigate the origin of the problem.
Ucana has many accounts : we should indicate to IrabaLabs every account suspected to belong to Ucana so that they could investigate.
Ucana doesn't want to play anymore. He's just spoiling the game ( breaking the toy he doesn't want to play anymore )
Yes Ucana you're really insane ( still no semantic with this word ) : you should meditate upon this , and take care of yourself. Si.
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It's really interesting how you people tink you KNOW someone enough to call them insane. Pitiful, really. Its a game where you act lie spies. Sheesh. -
Inappropriate?Well I died 4 times as well in the space of an hour! Why?
Ucana and his alts are simply ruining this game, now his shtick is collecting all bounties aswell leader board most wanted empty!!!People are walking away. And at this rate I hope I am wrong but the game will cease to Exist and Poor Chris, Albert & Ben will be out of work their livelyhood ruined, how very, very sad. Please ban his IP for G-d sake gentlemen do something.
I’m very, very sad
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Inappropriate?How many accounts did you merge Pod? I suspect a hell of a lot to suddenly appear on the kill board overnight and then rise to the top ten literally overnight. If Ucana is investigated for quantity of accounts, then so should you and everyone else. There are a ton of people doing this. If you think SM doesn't know just about every move U makes, than you are fooling yourselves. Tricks of the trade here. As for chat earlier, It wasn;t me calling people names. It was one of your brethren, Just because you don't like being called on what you say, doesn't mean it's not true.
I’m tired.
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Pod hasn't spoiled the game. Don't try to reverse the situation, Qua. You are not whiter than white. -
Exactly, Pod didn't ruin the game like you and your posse have. Don't act like you're holier than thou, its sickening. -
Yeah, Pod is not to be blamed for this-we are enemies, but fair is fair. -
There's a big difference to what Pod, and many many others did, and what you and Ucana did.
Pod does more to help others play this game well, and pays out of his own pocket for a site that you have used without qualm, till you were banned tonight.
If you are Ucana, go away, and if you are not, go away and take them with you. -
I enjoyed playing the game with you and Ucana Qua, but now you all are trying by any means possible to take the fun out of it for everybody, why? -
b422, le_vagabond and esszeeeye thank all of you for having integrity and helping to keep this this thread on topic the issue isn't about merging it's about FAKE STATS and using the MERGE EXPLOIT pushing the button 20 times real fast to gain millions of FREE POINTS and TRILLIONS of spymaster dollars and using that to destroy the game. -
Yeah we know Ucana isn't the only one with mult. accounts, its not bad to have mult. accounts, but when you use them to screw with people and ruin the game thats when we get pissed. Pod didnt do anything wrong so dont try and blame him. -
I didn't DO anything folks. My main account is lily white and I worked it up and did one simple facebook merge at Elite II. Nothing to find here. I am just stating our end of the situation. How's it feel being hunted so often you can't play. I know how it feels when I am someones contest and when Zone literally hits me nonstop 24/7. Not a complaint, just a statement. One you know to be true. Why is it you can't take the same treatment? -
Because Zone wasn't cheating Qua. That is the difference. Or don't you get it yet? -
Oh really Kanzas, I understand yo did the merge everyone is acussing Ucana of as being a cheat. Oh, yeah, I have the proof, And, it will be turned in. I haven't done anything the game hasn't allowed. But, its ok, accuse me, if you will. Its apparently your only defense against what I am saying in these forums. Accuse me to divert attention, Great soy technique, Hey, diversionnn in order to protect yourself against the same treatment....... -
I don't need a diversion. I did nothing wrong Qua. Can u say the same? No you can't. Good try at trying to point fingers at Pod, me and who else? I don't need a defense, again did nothing wrong. My stats before and after prove that out. I'm not accusing anyone, your guilt shines through by the way you are constantly pointing fingers at innocent people. Get a grip on reality, Karma is a bitch and it's knocking on your door. Implicate the next one on your list, I did nothing wrong... and I feel good about myself, Pod, my fellow Directors, my clan and everything else I've done in the game. I'm just now answering htis becasue I believe in the law of attraction, positive thinking and karma. This is attracting negativity into my life. So comment all you want I don't care. Unless someone brings my attention to something here again (like today) I won't be returning to read your negative comments. Maybe not even then. Moving on from Ucana and you. You deserve each other. Sending out healing energy to you both because at this point its much needed. Namaste. -
i have asked them to sort that out for me but they are not able to at the moment mine is not the only one efected -
I know mac, dont think it makes any diff either, just another bug for the guys to figure out -
Inappropriate?I don't know if ucana has a bunch of alts or not. I don't know if keysersoze is running amok using suicide attacks with ill gotten points or just using honestly earned points how he sees fit. But I'm adding a screenshot that shows a possible suicide attack as another piece of evidence.
There seem to be enough posts that the issue should be looked into. -
Inappropriate?I also am getting tired of Ucana's constant craving for attention by taking the game's few handicaps and using them for his advantage spoiling the fun for others in any way he sees fit. If it were any other game his opponents would walk away and leave him to play by himself...Instead of helping us all to fix things and get on with normal play he just insists on creating more problems.... (I also was kamikazed by K half a dozen times last night)
I’m frustrated
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You did it too B. Pull off your Attack Dog and maybe things will change. You gus and zone just systematically killed my accounts one by one and then tated over again. Thanks. I believe I will put them to sleep for a while to frustrate you all. -
"Pull off your Attack Dog", sorry Q, I don't give orders, unlike what PUMA became TCats all have a mind of their own and don't need no stinkin' leaders telling them what to do. Putting your accounts to sleep to frustrate us? You really think this old world revolves around you don't you Qua? Have a nice long nap why don't you, and give it a rest, take a walk in the sunshine perhaps you may see the light that is all around you. ps- and try to have some fun, laughter at this point could very well be the best medicine. (The condensed version of this post and it's threads is soon to be released in hardcover.) and who is gus? -
Inappropriate?This is all wrong, I am asking you Chris, Albert, Ben "The Directorate" please do something about him > UCANA before there is no one left to play your game and buy your points with cash money on a visa card. Ucana is killing spymaster the game more than its players. Can you really not see this ? Come on guy's its your game and our game we are trying to save before it is too late!
I’m very sad and fustrated
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Inappropriate?There are leaving people about this, people are talking about quitting the game because there is no room to play anymore.
Is it really going to be 2 sic persons who are allowed to distroy such a great game and a great place to be ? I hope not.
I’m very sad
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Inappropriate?Also killed twice in last 12 hours by KEYSERS0ZE422 with stats only achievable through a massive software glitch. The game is broken in its current state. After Monday night's repair, my stats remained what I had worked for but most on my target list moved up from low to medium and medium to high.
I’m just about to walk away
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Inappropriate?it's obviously rampant, obviously a few players, and obviously actionable. what more is there to say? my co-worker and i came back after a week-long business trip to all this nonsense, and he's quit. i'm sticking it out for the time being.
I’m disgusted
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Inappropriate?I don't think its fair that people are leaving the game because of this... obviously the bounties have now got out of hand too... there seem to be a lot of low levels who are getting bounties for no apparent reason.
I’m not bothered about my bounties but concerned about others...
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I never heard of your name until recently when you killed me and then tried to follow me... ?? -
yeah, lucky shot! my stats aren;t THAT good! what can i say, i don't usually get involved in the politics.... -
yeah me neither, if I can help it,. Not outside of Zone and what directly or indirectly affects our cell. I really haven't heard of you before now. Unfortunately people that are not well known are questionable to me, especially when Ucana has so many dang alts! I apologize, I'm not accusing, was just just curious and concerned.... -
thats ok Kanzaz, i'm not surprised everyone is questioning atm... but I am a real person, not an alt, not merged no funny business! -
I am adding low level bounties so all players at all levels can be involved it helps encourage them to join in the game too. Just because they are low level or newbies to the game doesnt mean they should be excluded -
Nac, this is a brilliant idea! It will help the billions now in circulation to level out between all players, especially newcomers who have no idea what just happened. Think you should start a new thread, offering mentoring and financial aide to newbies, on an appropriate scale, to help them join in fast and get the most out of our great game. I'm in, if anyone wants to add me to a list of helpers -
Adding low level bounties is one way to help spread out the money, I've started a new thread to try another method.http://getsatisfaction.com/spymaster/... -
Inappropriate?What annoys me the worse is people referring to 'Puma' breaking the game, or 'Puma' ruining it.
You guys need to realise that there are more people in Puma than just those who you are blaming.
I have never merged, I don't have alts, I worked at my stats. If I did any of those things, I think I would have better stats that what I actually have!
I'm just a player who is in the Puma cell.
I’m sad that everyone is blaming ALL Puma members
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Me too. I have never done anything at all to ruin the game. I have never merged and never planned on it.
For everyone to blame all PUMA is just wrong. It's not fair to those of us who are playing the game to constantly be treated like we did something wrong. -
Totally agree Stevo, you put it better than I did! -
MK, Ucana had so much to do with this. Would it not serve the interests of PUMA to rid themselves of him, all of his alts and move forward. He has tainted Puma. -
Inappropriate?Hey Pod,
When was the last time an entire cell, and their bedfellows, tried to ruin the game for for a group of players by attacking every member in it relentlessly all weekend?
Oh wait.... that was you.....
I’m sick of all the pointing fingers at Ucana and Puma - like no one else has EVER done this.
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hmm yes... Delta? -
Oh and don't forget the #kickpumawhentheyredownweekend ! -
uh, I can't let this slide by-Pod's wars on other clans were legit-done with legal energy.I was in Zone, at the time, as were many others, who can bear witness to the fact. -
Ess, I'm not saying it wasn't done legally - but it's griefing and ruining the game for a group of players regardless.
If I wanted to get killed all day, and not be able to play - well that would be right up my alley. Too bad it's not. -
Ok, what I see is a lot of apologists for Ucanas tactics, which were not legal.
Folks are trying to drag in other issues and muddy the waters by comparing a one or two day war between clans, with constant kami attacks, over several days, by using illegal points, thats not the same.
The amount of deaths are in no way comparable from Pod's clan wars to what Ucana & cohorts are doing, now, -wiping the entire most wanted board, for hours, is an example of the scale.
Folks who really don't know the history of the game, or were not involved in the clan wars, could be mislead by all the unleashed flim flam from Ucana's (few) supporters. -
Look at Tae's post, above for the frequency of these kills,'keysers0ze422 and th3_422 both have killed me 3 times within 40 minutes. " -
don't forget about freedom fighters last weekend or thundercats next weekend. :-)
seriously, i don't know who's doing what. i see a bunch of allegations and possible evidence. there's probably enough to warrant looking into.
truthfully, i get killed so often i didn't even know there was an issue until it was pointed out to me.
i know so many people in my clan and in rival clans who have done nothing wrong and are being declared guilty by association. i'd like to see all the rhetoric dialed down a bit so we can all go back to enjoying playing a great game. (it's has to be great, look at the passions it inflames). let's hope ilist has time and resources to investigate and if needed, take action. -
All i can see from Puma members is defense of themselves as individuals which is well within thier rights. Many of you have fought besides these people in the past and know they play the game for what it is... fun.
I agree with bob (for the first time ever i might add) that cell battles are the purpose behind cells period. Something obviously does need to be looked into somewhere, and the comments here seem to have got off topic, which is constant suicide missions by a handful of players. I am sure if ilist feel that they need to take action they will do so and we must have faith in them to do that.. but lets not get down to insulting and demeaning innocent players in the process. Lets get on with playing the game..... -
Ess, I'm not apoligising for anyone or anything, because I havent done anything wrong. I totally agree (also for once) with Bobs statement, people are being declared guilty by association. -
It wasn't Pod or battles between the clans that did this. It was the greed, hunger for control and power of a few people. Blaming other cells and people for what a few did isn't helping the situation at all. Rid yourself of a leader that muddied the clan's reputation. At minimum, if Ucana or any of his alts cared HE would step down if only on a temporary basis. -
its a spy game, clan battles are part of the fun. -
Inappropriate?I agree Marian... we are working really hard at playing the game the right way and its not fair to blame someone for their cell affiliation... i have never merged either, I have a decent but not outstanding kill ratio, and if you all checked me out you would see that I play the game fairly, as does Marian.
I’m sad we are all being tarnished with the same brush
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Thanks Lynne.. I think everyone knows that I pretty much suck.. so have never found a way to gain from things :o) Hahaha -
I don't think that simply being in PUMA makes you guilty of anything. BUT, I have to ask - why would anyone want to be a member of a cell with a leader as contemptible as Ucana? -
Plus - by staying in Puma you're not exactly separating yourselves from other Puma members who laud and defend Ucana's actions.
I can't respect Puma, or anyone in the cell, as long as Ucana is at the helm. -
Jon said this very well. Why would anyone want to stay in a clan that has had its reputation ruined by one person with endless accounts? I still respect a few people in Puma, have none for the clan itself and have lost it for those who are actually sticking up for Ucana by justifying his actions at the expense of others.
Ucana if you cared about Puma you'd step down as leader. -
Inappropriate?marian, I and quite a few of my fellow Puma's painfully task through every single level, getting kicked all the way.. we support each other in this, and encourage patience in each other.. we play fair, and expected to be treated in the same way....
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Inappropriate?Oh and I also agree with catsinmyfreezer with regarding it not only certain members of Puma who have alts and use them for attacks.
Yesterday, I was also attacked by the same person cats was, both Vertago1 and Snarfspy - a total of three times, so there is another example of someone hitting with their main and an alt. -
It's right to say that not every PUMA member has been involved in Ucana's madness. -
But some PUMAs should express clearly their opinon about what Ucana has done. -
LeV, you are right, not EVERY member of Puma was involved. Intel suggests Ucana issued lists of targets to cell members in puma chat to spread the extra money and chaos around as fast as possible. Some of those who followed these instructions were unaware of the consequences or too intimidated to refuse them. -
Your 'intel' is incorrect. -
Your 'intel' is more than incorrect, its insulting. -
I still regret that PUMAs who haven't been involved don't clearly give their opinion about Ucana. Do they approve or disapprove him ? -
Lynne, MK, anyone who was in p chat knows how it went down. Or perhaps you we're not privy to that info- it matters not- the results can be seem from records of the game - there lies our proof.At some point, the few members who spread $ around took lists and hit it out.I'm not including every member of Puma in this, the directors can check this, I think? -
Inappropriate?Well, I am sick of being lumped in with "those who have merged."
I just merged 8, 9, 10 days ago? My Elite V, Level 40 status was earned long ago.
At the time of my merging, the numbers were outrageous and we immediately attempted to alert ilist. Until that point, all my stats, kills, leaderboard status, rank, etc. was earned on this solo account and competing against those who were merging. I consistently remained in the top 10 working Pink, with no merge, while watching others merge and kick me around (stat-wise).
I agree with those who are being hurt by being lumped in with PUMA, but I also think we need to quit lumping all those who merged since some of us just merged recently and have been trying to get these false stats removed since and have learned it is easier said than done. -
I agree, I mentioned merging because people made out that ALL of Puma have been merging, yet so many Puma members HAVENT merged, let alone push the button like Pod is saying. -
Inappropriate?PUMA i agree about the lump statement about puma and if you haven't been using this exploit by pushing the merge button 20 times REAL FAST I'm sorry to have included you in ucana's plot to ruin the game for the rest of us.
BUT UCANA was or still is your LEADER and his rain of hate and boredom must end.
WHO owns PUMA_422 http://playspymaster.com/profiles/92077
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I havent merged, let alone push a button twenty times. Yet I, and other Puma members, are all being called cheats. You were there the other night Pod, when a certain member was saying I should be kicked off AITS for being in the Puma cell, yet I had done or said nothing about any of it.
Its this unfair treatment that is causing major resentment. -
mariankelly right and i hope you will continue using http://Stats.SpymasterZombie.com AKA AITS, when i ban SimplyQua last night it was do to her stirring the pot and the rest of the people there getting very upset and resorting to name calling, me included.
My first reaction was to say ALL CELLS BUT PUMA are welcome here and others said all BAN ALL PUMA but MK, you :)
the problem is a few bad apples SimplyQua and Ucana mainly are giving all puma a bad name, ARE THEY STILL PUMA? -
Pod, Puma_422 IS Ucana IS Sm0ke422 is Manitoba S. is..... I was looking in the dossier the other day and looked up Sm0ke422, Puma_422 came up. He was in the midst of merging them over or whatever. Keyster guy is him as well. Its ridiculous for Ucana to get away with blatant disregard for fellow clan members and spymaster as a whole. I'm sure he is somewhere laughing at the debacle that has been caused. :( -
Inappropriate?This topic is not about Puma in general, I'm not really sure where you all have gotten this idea. All you're doing is taking this thread far off topic. This is about UCANA and SIMPLYQUA and all their ALTS (which I can almost promise you, is what this KEYSER person is) ruining the game. Normal merging is fine, a lot of us have done it (not me personally, I actually only have one account) and have played well within the rules.
I'm sorry to Puma if it seems you've been lumped into the same group as these two horrible people. I know quite a few of you are good, honest people who care about the game as much as the rest of us.
Lets try and get this back on topic and save the game before its taken from us.
Edit: Yeah, I just realized the topic actually does have Puma in it, so that's where you got the idea from LOL. But rest assured this is directly at the two people mentioned above and anyone who supports their actions as of recently. -
thank you Hypernova for keeping a level head in this... as both myself and marian has said, we just want to be treated fairly as PLAYERS first.. -
Inappropriate?The idea behind puma is a Christmas tree with Ucana being the fairy on the top, 10 directors under him and each director has 10 deputies. Over time and when trained each deputy recruits 10 more and so on.
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you can't blame the baubles at the bottom for the fairy on the top now can ya??!!! (sorry ap, couldn't help myself!) ;) -
Inappropriate?Here's my info... It was minutes from the rest... We all were watching it happen seconds apart. If you want people to quit this game, you are on the right track... It was bad enough that the previous nights goof up took almost half my stuff, 900 wins/300 losses from my Dossier and didn't give me any money like some received (those millions)... I was crushed and UCANA, along with his 20+ alternate identities are just the icing on the cake. I've had it... and my SM messages touch 24K+ people. Talk about getting the word around... Lose that if you wish, it's up to you! Including my screenshot...
ATI_SDVOSB
I’m EXTREMELY frustrated!!!
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did you have a bunty too ATI? -
Inappropriate?No Bounty was put on me... But I was suicided 7 times in 2 hours by UCANA and his alts... I did notice that I received a tap right before he Suicided, so either that was his alt taping or he is coordinating his suicide missions with a buddy. ???? That is for us to guess and for the Directorate to find out...
ATI_SDVOSB
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?KEITH AND BEN, there's a EASY cleanup yall can do to fix a lot of the stats.
Hire Mercenaries and insurance and ARE STUCK and permanent on many merged accounts, this is whats causing KEYSERS0ZE422 to have more spymasters than he should.
also i would suggest removing any accounts points over say 1 million or maybe suicide is just stuck on KEYSERS0ZE422 i don't know about the suicide getting stuck or not but im sure you can look at the account and tell. -
That's a great idea, Paul. I hope they can find that via some simple SQL in the DB. -
We'll look into it. It's actually harder than you might expect. -
Inappropriate?I've been giving it some thought and I've now decided to leave the game. There's no fun left. I deleted about 20 mins ago.
As soon as I realised that spreading out my assets now has no value I also realised that three months work was also of no value. So it was for nothing.
Yes, I did 'game' the system. This 'game' was a killer for me - it was like finding a cheat code and then losing interest.
So goodbye and good luck with the game. -
Salamat Jalan You will be missed. -
Salamat tingal ess -
I regret too read this Scu, I allready let you know that I would hate too see you leave.
I really hope we can stay in touch Scu, I hope you'll find joy back in an other game, and who knows, maybe we'll meet again in that other game.
Gonna miss ya pall.. -
I didn't know austinpowers422 very well but ScuBear i knew and i too will miss a good enemy but more so the person behind the keyboard.
sorry all the fun has been sucked out of the game for you.
Good Luck and enjoy all life has to offer.
Paul -
I completely understand you. The fun has left.
Everything now is cheated.
I consider that iList (IrataLabs) has given no appropriate response. Their action had been to put much mess ( giving money to players who weren't touched by Ucana's hits ). No clear response. And above all, no sanctions.
Keith has even confessed that nobody at iList plays the game. How can they run and take appropriate measures when they don't know the game. We , players, know the origin of this mess. But they don't take this into consideration.
I, profoundly, regret that iIList hasn't given any response to this post initiated by Pod
Sure, that new players can go on to play. But first adopters feel betrayed. Most of us know that something is broken. -
Sorry to see you go Scu, but I don't blame you in the least for leaving. I'm sure the thought has crossed a number of our minds, myself included. Best of luck to you in any of your future endeavors. -
I'm sorry to see you go. When I hit you with the money as Austin, I thought you were somehow involved, and so I want to apologize. I was wrong. I hope that when things get straightened out, maybe you will come back. I completely understand you're disappointment in the game and some of the people who played. I wish you luck in your future gaming experience, maybe we'll run into each other.... take care. :) -
Pod - I renamed from Scubear to AustinPowers422 in order to re-create the personal scubear account that had been lost to spam. I did recreate a SM account for scubear just to take a few hits and perhaps waste some ZONE energy with hits on a level 1 1/1 (it didn't work that well but is, for some reason, in your FF/Puma hit list). It's not an alt but it's still there should anyone wish to contact me through the game.
In all honesty I didn't know anything until I got all the money. Then I looked it up and thought that I might as well try it as I realised that there wasn't much future in the game. If I was going to go out then I thought it would be nice to boost my stats for a few days to see what it's like being that strong - I realised almost immediately that it was a very boring choice to make. I've been thinking of quitting for a while and this wasn't the only reason. Kanzaz was the first person to send me money but not the only person. Having 10 million WA 2000s, 500,000 Microwave Denial Systems, 1 million Luxury Cars and 1 million supercars was a bit silly of course.
The game is, of course, devalued now that the money is in circulation. Some of the money is has been spread about and is hiding in different accounts. It's now much easier to get money - there's less need to sell houses to buy stats, people will own the big houses quicker, stats will rise quicker. What people have been working on for month can now be achieved in days - that's how the game has been devalued.
The appearance of cyber bullying on the game is also a step in the wrong direction. Sure there have been defections that have made people angry but I read some very aggressive comments recently about people posting death threats against other users of the game. If anyone really takes the game *that* seriously they shouldn't be playing - or at least their mouse should have a breathalyser. -
Inappropriate?The silence from iList is deafening. This is like talking to a brick wall anymore. A few have already quit and more will surely follow, fix your game or lose the ones who helped you get where you are today.
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I agree... the disquiet with the game has begun and many are debating the value of continuing to play... i know i am... -
Inappropriate?I'm not gonna quit, even after un-joining my clan. The $ will balance out shortly, the swiss and the black market will see to that. Homeostasis of the spymaster economy is not far away.
I’m confident
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Nice of you to ask what was going on first Ron. Truly. I regret you didn't. -
Inappropriate?Sorry for the lack of response. These problems are pretty big and we're trying to figure out how to deal with them fairly. We've also got other things on our plate that slid by the last few days. We're playing catchup.
To be honest, there is so much noise in this forum it's hard to sort out the actual problems from player vs. player trash talk.
We'll take some time to go through this and investigate, but you must realize that there are thousands of players, many of which have problems right now. We can't address every single one of them individually, let alone right away. -
Isn't it easy enough to check IP addresses? Ucana, keyseroze422, puma_422, Sm0ke422 Manitoba S. and others are all Ucana. Block his IP. We all can not be wrong. This player stands out amongst all the rest as being the one behind it all. If you don't want to ban someone for good, at least do so as a temporary measure so he can stop wreaking havoc on the rest of us. Especially the players who don't have a clue about what is going on! -
Inappropriate?oh look, ucana and his alts again.
KEYSERS0ZE422 collected the £3.2M bounty you placed on Sm0ke422.
So much for not interacting with each other. -
Sm0ke422 is not a Ucana alt. -
Is it yours? are YOU Puma_422 because the two names are connected. -
Yeah, sm0ke422 isn't Ucana, uh-huh... keep telling yourself that, WinterinCapri, GloriousPussy. -
Qua, come clean and tell us all your ALTS. Like thats going to happen. -
WHat are all of yours? Hmmmm. Sm0ke is mine. I created the account. I don't see how you could know if there was any connection between sny of the accounts unless you are hacking the system. It would be refreshing if the accusers came clean for once. -
Inappropriate?KEITH AND BEN, there's a EASY cleanup yall can do to fix a lot of the stats.
Hire Mercenaries and insurance and ARE STUCK and permanent on many merged accounts, this is whats causing KEYSERS0ZE422 to have more spymasters than he should.
also i would suggest removing any accounts points over say 1 million or maybe suicide is just stuck on KEYSERS0ZE422 i don't know about the suicide getting stuck or not but im sure you can look at the account and tell. -
We'll look into those being stuck. I've not seen evidence of that, but maybe Ben can find it. -
the evidence is Spymasters * 3,749 and he only has 2,210 twitter followers and look at farrokhb too thats blogspys alt that he's leaving dead for yall. -
Inappropriate?KEYSERS0ZE422 has been banned. We're looking into the points problem. We had thought we'd got it, but apparently not.
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Does that take care of his alts as well? I appreciate all that you guys are doing to correct these issues. I know you all have your own personal lives as well as the real jobs to do. Thanks for taking so much of your lives to help correct an issue that you couldn't possibly have foreseen. Is there an email address that I can contact you? -
Right, Keyser does have another similarly named account here.. http://playspymaster.com/profiles/89721 as KeyserSoze422. I wouldn't be surprised to see that one pull the same tactics as the recently banned one did last night.
Thank you DKR for getting rid of one of the problem users, I was wondering if you guys was ever going to ban anyone. ;) -
Keith banning Keyser is good news, I hope you have also banned the IP address that keyser operates from as that is where his alts are playing from aswell.
Fair Comment?? I think it is safe to say with the exception of a few idiots that we would all love to see things put right. Humbily I submit something has to be done pretty soon or you will have no players left. I sincerely hope you all at ilist do not have this website as your sole source of income, as I believe if matters are left unresoved or not resoved soon your livelyhoods will be irrepairably damaged. Please let us know as avid players if there is anything we can do to help you.
I understand that yourself, chris and ben can be contacted as yourselves @ilist.com would that be correct??
Be well and good luck with this onerous task.
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It said the account was suspended, not banned. Big difference Keith. Way to go, you guys must be proud to selectively suspend one player, who was one of the last to use this type of merge. Now, why didn't you ban Blogspy911, Farrokhb, Scubear, any name Saboteur comes up with, the scriptofile Vertago.....lets keep adding to that list. You can't ban or suspend one without doing it to the others. Oh, I guess you can. -
Jonny, you are exactly right. Doesn't mean he doesn't have others. But Keyser is the one who is wreaking the most havoc at the moment. -
Why don't we just get you banned Qua? How about that? At least have the balls to admit you're as guilty as the rest, you coward. -
Qua - he had over 3 million points, not possible without cheating. The IP will likely be blocked as well. We'll be looking into you also, don't worry, if you're clean you'll be fine. -
Great, look all you like Keith. I suspect if you want to "FIND" a reason to ban me and make these jerks happy, you will. Oh by the way, you guys owe me about 37 kills on the kill board you managed to remove for some unknown reason. I've also sent emails. Are you not responding to me based on the rumors these people are spreading? Seems pretty apparent you arent looking into Saboteur, BlogSpy, and the others I previously listed. Feel free. Look all you like at you best points customer. Way to go. As for Ucana's points, when you reset the system the other night, they showed up Keith. You said you guys were done tweaking the system. Lots of people got points I've heard, are they banned too? You said you were finished changing things, yet, here we are. -
I too have made several attempts at communication via e-mail, to no avail,..I made the points known after you said the problem was fixed,..shall I be more discreet next time so as to not point out your blunders,...WTF,..get your game working properly,..and appolagize to us,.and if you ban mp ip address,..you will have lost more than you know,..and will continue to loose,... -
Were all gonna keep hitting you till you quit ucana422. you seem to have one friend left... SimplyQua. good luck with that -
well, one friend, but countless accounts to hit from -
Qua, it doesn't matter if iList happened to miss one account with a billion points, the fact of the matter is Keyser/Ucana *could've* been honest and reported him to fix it, but he *didn't* and instead *abused* them. -
Hyprnova, see above comment from Ucana. He did report it. He sent countless emails about this account to employees of SM. What else was he supposed to do? Go to San Francisco and turn him self in for a glitch in their system. -
Inappropriate?I didn't realise there was a limit to how many times you could kill someone....checking TOS. No, nope, it doesn't say that anywhere. If so, everyone in Zone would be history.
I’m pissed off
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Did you get that PhD off the back of a box of Frosted Flakes? LEARN how to READ and COMPREHEND. -
You are simply ignorant, which university did you graduate from??You are not a decent human being by any stretch of the imagination, you need a real life. Oh and we would not be history because you soon will be. Have a nice life Qua I hope you grow up to be big and strong!! -
Hi Jonny, seems you have learned to clean up your language barrier to conversation that doesn;t include calling me horrible names. -
Inappropriate?I also guess, that he who yells the loudest and the most profanely is who gets listened to. So, here you go. BAN THIS!

Oh, and you just banned the first account to receive the New Shield for most collection of bounties. I asked you guys to take Kamikase off the boards for use in Bounties, but you left it. So, I adopted the practice as did others. Just using the tools provided by SM.
I’m furious
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Yeah, keep trying to derail the thread, its not going to work. Look at your hands, are they red with guilt? -
Grow up Qua, grow up and you say you have a Phd. !!!! -
So what if an acct to receive the first badge of anything was the first to go... whoever deserves it should face consequences. Because they got a badge first means they should stay? I hope you are as uninvolved as you say. I hear that you are a nice person... I haven't seen much lately to back that up in SpyMaster, but I really like to believe the best in people.... If you are as guiltless as you declare, I'm sure it will bear out. Good Luck. -
Inappropriate?You are all sheep being led to the sluaghter,..except you Qua,..I love you !,...but the rest of you,..for shame !..it is a game,.for crying out loud,..and I am the one constantly accused of taking it too seriously !,..I am just doing what is neccassary for me to have fun,..no more,..no less,..well,...maybe a little more now and then,...but come on,..now really,...is it that big of a deal,..?
I could have hidden my account for months and waited for this to all blow over ,..but no !,...I intentionally was trying to draw out bloggys little secret,..that he seems to have forgotten to mention,..amongst all the others that have been developed and put to sleep over the course of the last month in which far more people than I were ever doing this technique,..and all we are doing is pushing buttons that have been put before us ,...? Is it our fault,..or the people who put the buttons there,..? Or the people who did not make sure that those buttons all functioned correctly,..before making us endure such drama and lameness,...not cool,..EPIC FAIL !
I also am becoming more and more fond of 140 WAR
140 Mafia
Ninja Clash
FFS
and many other fine games that do not make you feel like you are doing something wrong for accelling at them,..when it is through the games own flaws that the benifits are arising,..so what happened to the theme of Spy's and sabotage,.and hacking swiss banks and all the other tasks that you all are so blindly push away at,..while the true rememberable story is being written as we speak,.by us all,...as we whine and bitch and moan,..that its not fair,...that it needs to be fixed,..that I got assassinated playing a game about assassinations,...and my personal favorite,..Jescalan the author of the be all end all guide to how to play this game,..tweeting me to stop stealing his Microwave Denial System,..cause he uses it to make money,...as at the time he was an advisary,...OK,..I'll do that,..it would seem that we at PUMA have boughten you all now your fair share of microwaves and them some,...you hypocritical fickle short sighted don't even know that there is a box that can be thunk out off sheep need to go lay down and die,..or try solitaire ,..or mine sweep,..those are fun,..basically,..fix your game ilist,..and if that means getting rid of me,..then so be it,..but make up your mind,..the sheep are getting restless,...Bahahahahahahahahaha!
I’m amused
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Normally i would read what people write... but you need to split it up into paragraphs man... im tired lol. Too much to read. -
Then do us all a favor, leave SM and go play those games. Please. -
Good then leave bye bye -
"I am just doing what is neccassary for me to have fun,..no more,..no less,..well,...maybe a little more now and then,...but come on,..now really,...is it that big of a deal,..?"
lol are you serious? for you to have fun? wow you are pretty pathetic -
So is this admitting that KEYSER was Ucana? Is that what you're getting at? -
How do you have that image Qua ??? Using the same computer as Ucana??
You are a nasty piece of work. -
The pic was given to me to post because it wouldn't go up for Ucana. -
Inappropriate?You are only doing what is necessary "for YOU to have fun" and you care less about the game, the people who play it or the ones who provide it. Karma. It's staring right at you and you can't see it. The way we play games in unreal gaming worlds tend to reflect the way we lead our lives. I feel nothing but sadness for you, you can't even see the harm that you've done.
I’m sad that one can be so blind.
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Inappropriate?it was interesting to read (in another topic) that ucana said something about not being remembered for the rules we keep.
this being said, i feel ucana (and his buddy?) is deliberately sabotaging the game.
it might be true that he didn't find the glitch, but he also has stated, "I could have hidden my account for months and waited for this to all blow over."
This statement (in my mind) reveals that he has other intentions to ruin the game play for other players.
Others might have found the glitch, and others might have benefited from it secretly, but to deliberately sabotage the game, is simply unacceptable.
blaming others while not taking responsibility for one's action is also wrong.
@directorate, i have read this issue was brought to your attention several weeks ago, but nothing was done. if this is true, you guys are also responsible.
-taebin
I’m hoping it will work out
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How would you know when you certainly don't know all the pieces to the puzzle as do none of the others here. -
Inappropriate?This thread is Infinitely long. People who have intentionally broken the game will be dealt with. If someone has been caught in the crossfire and has been banned injustly, then an email to appeals@playspymaster.com will right this injustice.
Keep in mind we're slowing coming back to the way things should have been. I was just brought back. Please stay patient with us as we try to make the game as fun as cotton candy taste. -
Off topic, I know.. but welcome back Brent.. see what happens when ya leave?! Don't leave us again please! -
Aww Brent! WELCOME BACK!!!! Please Please don't leave us again! Stay and keep the waters calm or at least calmer! Missed ya! :) -
We love you MK! -
Off Topic as well Please never leave again Brent lovely to have you back.
You are a rock star!!!! -
On Twitter thread #banucana: SimplyQua: "We broke the game just so @spymaster would bring back @Brntbeer!!! Beats a protest! WeLoveBrent! Not so much the other guys. #banucana #puma" (Joking) But all the same, I'm glad you are back and hope its a permanent arrangement. You deserved better Brent. -
Welcome back Brent! Can you put on those big goofy glasses again? Please?! ;) -
@brntbeer #TCats #ZOne #puma "cause every little thing is gonna be all right" ♫ http://blip.fm/~cr27v -
Welcome back Brent, I know your gonna have a lot of fun being back at the job, and congratulations to Ben, Keith and Chris for having a fine new collega. -
Welcome back Brent, yall can find the people that used the hack by looking at there spymasters and twitter followers, many have Hire Mercenaries stuck on there account inflating there power. -
Inappropriate?Yay, shoot'em straight kungfutactics @BRNTBEER ! First round is on me,..where are we going,...#banucana #422
I’m thankful
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Your still here? -
O do be quiet fluffy. -
What is this, freakin' Twitter now? #banucana #banqua... oops. -
Probaly another one of Pumas Hacks. This time aimed at GetSatisfaction. -
hey, ucana, thanks for the RT love. i appreciate it. i see it was from some lesser known accounts too? ah, but then TH3 RT'd me, and i knew it was you. shall we review the alternate accounts that RT'd me alone? ok
MountainLion422
SaskatchewanSpy
ONTARIOSPY
Cougar422
AlbertaSpy
TH3_422
it really made me feel good to get all of the #banucana love, though. thanks! -
Wow, Ucana is even being blamed for the #banucana ??? You people need to get over it already. -
no, we arent blaming him for #banucana. he is the target of #banucana, you see... -
no, we arent blaming him for #banucana. he is the target of #banucana, you see... -
Inappropriate?Pod wrote "the issue isn't about merging it's about FAKE STATS and using the MERGE EXPLOIT pushing the button 20 times real fast to gain millions of FREE POINTS and TRILLIONS of spymaster dollars and using that to destroy the game."
I disagree. This is about the bigger issue of multiple accounts as well as the merge exploit. I don't feel I am diluting the thread but adding to it when I bring up the multiple accounts issue. None of this would have happened if the Merge Accounts functionality had not been enabled. When that occured, the game strategy changed. Instead of trying to build one main account, everyone wanted to reach E5 and the merge was a tool to save losing all your hard work to get to level 40. But you see, the Directorate made the rule that you lose all your assets to become Elite. Players were just trying to do what comes natural by protecting their assets. I don't blame anyone for that. But thats what Beta testing is about--to discover problems with the game. Problems have cropped up now. GREAT! The merge button Exploit was discovered. Spectacular!
After that bug is fixed then the Directorate will need to mull over whether they want to allow merging and multiple accounts. Then some clear rules will be set so we know how to proceed. Truely I feel for you players that have 5 accounts. You worked hard on each of them I'm sure (unless you used a bot :) ).
But the Elite button is for people with integrity to use--to take the loss of assets and go further in the game by starting off again with nothing. I never pushed that button (maybe I don't have what it takes to go elite). But I felt that I had way too many assets that I couldn't part with them. A game strategy I took.
The concept of "ELITE Status" has been damaged. E5 means nothing. The badge means nothing. That is sad. Because there are players who actually got there the hard way and earned it. They deserve respect. But now the game is broken.
I want a ruling from the Directorate on multiple accounts along with this bug issue.
I’m obviously not Elite material--or maybe I AM and just don't know it.
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Allthough I agree on Quite a few of your ideas Cats, I also want you to know that there are also some IP's that have mulitple accounts for other reasons.
For instance my wife is playing the game too, if you make it impossible to have multiple accounts it will mean that there can not be more players from 1 household anymore.
There are also people who have multiple accounts to play the game with the other account while the first account is recharging energy.
Maybe if they reduce the recharge time to say 2 min. it will have more people loose their second account.
I believe abusing multipleaccounts can be minimized by disabeling account merges, and make a clear rule for having multiple accounts in the TOS.
Most importend thing I think is that not everybody is having multiple accounts to cheat or to make things easier.
Infact, I used my second account only to find out the effects of surten game play in first instance.
When we found out about merging, I was under the assumption that this was a legit way of playing, and thats why I used merging to level up faster.
The first time I was confronted with the merge glitch I was flubbergasted, and merged the account to my headaccount blogspy.
The merging I did after that where just tryouts to see what this bug does, I never used that account on other players exept for those times I felt I needed to stop a few people who I felt were abusing the merge glitch like Keysers0ze422.
Infact I put that account to sleep, and its dead constantly. Thats Farrokhb.
I do understand that some of you think I shouldnt have tested the bug, but I also hope you understand that as being a webdeveloper myself I am intriged by these kind of bugs, like a mechanic will be intriged by some carfailures and an architect is intriged by the collapsing of buildings, just like them I like to find out where things go wrong.
To asume having multiple accounts is cheating or even asuming that all people who are confronted with this bug are cheaters is just as wrong as saying all Puma's are cheaters.
Infact, some of you might even be infected by this merge bug without even noticing.
For instance the safehouses, I've heard some people say after a merge 'hey strange, i thought I sold all my houses before merging, I guess I didnt"
But infact they did, this was also a part of the bug, and I think a lot of people who merged infact had atleast this exploit of the bug.
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How many times did you "Test" this bug blog? How many tests could it of took to get to 197million attack? Seems like you kept "Testing" the same bug over and over and over again.
I'd like the merging option back, just put in place a stop so you cant keep pressing it over and over and over like some people have. It seems like all of the folks who want the merge option to be disabled are the ones that have already used it to get to EV or have already reached it... -
How many times do you think Neandertal does an aircrashinvestigator looks at the possibility's?
I didnt make a secret about it, I told everybody I merged this account from a regular level 1 to a elite V level 40 within an hour.
I'll refraze the Question Neanderthal, how many times did this superaccount attack you?
I can answer it for you, 0 times.
The only accounts that have been attacked by this account are Ucana's alts and Qua alts.
Ucana alts to stop him from abusing the exploit, and Qua's alt for helping him abusing it.
Helping him? Yes Qua helping him, as I was trying to keep Keysers0ze422 dead, you suicided merdenoms on me to make sure he could do what he wanted to do.
So Qua, you may not have exploidet the bug in that, but you helped Ucana exploit his, fully being aware as you where doing it. -
I dont care if it attack me or a million people right now, I only cared to make it a point that if you just stumbled upon this bug from Testing, then why did you KEEP TESTING THE BUG. How many times did you test it to get to 60,000 spymasters? 60,000!!!!!
And I'm just loving how everyone that has EV40 in this game who want that Merge option disabled.... Crap on the little guy. -
I dont care if it attack me or a million people right now, I only cared to make it a point that if you just stumbled upon this bug from Testing, then why did you KEEP TESTING THE BUG. How many times did you test it to get to 60,000 spymasters? 60,000!!!!!
And I'm just loving how everyone that has EV40 in this game who want that Merge option disabled.... Crap on the little guy. -
It might be you name, I dont know, but I think I'll stop explaining myself.
Its not up to you to decide weather if I did something wrong or not, thats up to the directors. As so is the decision to make merging able or not. -
Inappropriate?I thought Manitoba S. was also Ucana and I'm being hit by him. And th3saboteur is that you Ucana? Anyone know. I hardly feel worthy of a 2.1 Million dollar bounty... but then you all have endless anounts to spend, correct?
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You will notice saboteur422 does not exist anymore. I dropped the 422 for th3. I don't need money. My stats were stripped. I sent you a million. Put a bounty on me. -
Suddenly everyone is Ucana? Come off it Kansas. -
No YOU come off it. I've BEEN saying that Manitoba S. was Ucana. Could be wrong, who knows. besides him, you and your few 'privileged' cohorts as well as the Directorate. Not the first time I've mentioned this name as Ucana. He does have endless alts. Stop protecting the worm. And the name is kanZaZ. -
Inappropriate?No th3saboteur is not Ucana and why don't you feel you are worth 2.1 million? I won a few bounties and thought I would spread my love to Zone.
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Inappropriate?Well, thanks for the love, but as a matter of fact I'm getting so much love right now I can hardly breathe.... lolol And Manitoba S. WAS supposed to be Ucana and if so, how is he still hitting me?
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The guy has like 20 something accounts. It will probably be easier to fix the SpyMaster Economy then find all his accounts. -
Inappropriate?It seems if they block his IP addy, that would solve the immediate problem. But I'm sure he's found a way to block them. Oh joy, he is having so much fun... and can't begin to understand why we aren't? Give me a break. Karma. Coming for those who deserve it good and bad.
I’m perplexed and sad that someones life's amusement is at the expense of others.
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Inappropriate?It does seem that the name Puma is now poison. There are some genuine players still attached to the clan but the whole structure of the clan makes them toys in Ucana's personal power game. I always thought the structure of one person 'dictating' over a clan was an uneasy one.
I encourage the remaining genuine players, such as MK, to join other clans or start a new clan. Join Thundercats if you're still on good terms with your old friends, join Zone if you're comfortable there, join Freedom Fighters if you're up for a challenge, join LAOS if you can speak Korean. But get out now.
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