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Ability to set Reviews as my Homepage
In the absence of a 'home' button I think clicking favorites on the toolbar should go to your default setting (in my case the blog/review page in list format). Thats the way it worked and the beta is clumsier.
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Well, this is where the power of Get Satisfaction lies! :)
A fix was made. I posted about it describing exactly how it was made. You guys expressed your opinions. Our team watched and listened. Et voila!! WE DO LISTEN TO YOU!
The majority of our users thumb-up sites and use SU to organize their Favorites, but rarely write reviews. For them (that also includes any new user signing up for an account), the "All" page will still be the default and Favorites button will still take them to their "Favorites".
It's been a long, but successful day.
I thus retire and will see you all tomorrow!
Monica
I’m exhausted, but thrilled.
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Well said, Ellie, but my page -- and obviously those of a large number of us - defaults to "Recent activity".
After that I get the All view -- assuming I know which button to click, because there is no smooth flow here -- and then it's another tab from there to the reviews page that is my home.
There is 100 per cent agreement on this, that stumblers regard the page where they place their reviews (or, dare I say it, blog postings) as home.
The only ones who don't are those who use SU only for bookmarking, and have never explored its advanced features.
Everyone hates being harassed (that's how it feels) by a list of links, albeit with their friends' names attached, when logging in and simply trying to get home.
They even hate landing on "All", since that is not home either.
Complaints have been made about this log-in problem from day one and the powers-that-be have steadfastly refused to acknowledge that it irks everyone.
It makes a very bad first impression and sends the message loud and clear that reviews are of no value, and what stumblers have to say is of no importance.
Were the management to fix that one matter of where we land I think a lot of people would overlook minor quibbles and go along with the changes w/o feeling too alienated.
In my opinion it is not an oversight though; it is part of the same plan that sees the visual editor dropped and groups relegated to the footnotes.
You may beg to differ but I'd just remind stumblers of the founder's intention to turn this place into "something between Google and Twitter" -- those were his words at the outset, not to us but to the marketing world.
The best we can hope for is that SU can still acommodate stumblers who review and "micro-blog" as well, but that's by no means certain in an interface that favours clicks and numbers over opinion.
It's also galling of course that in spite of now having a huge database of links and tags, SU has not seen fit to make those tags very usable -- another insult to the user base.
I’m gaining respect for Delicious and Tumblr instead
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So as I understand it, after waiting well over a month for something to be done, our public view will default to the 'review' page (as it has done for me all along anyway) but the default view we see ourselves when we go to out site or click 'favorites' will continue to be the 'All' page ? Exactly what this whole thread and all of the people who have contributed to it have requested that it *not* do ? How anyone can therefore say this request has been 'implemented' beggars belief. For everyone who regards their 'review' page as their home page it is now clumsier and requires more clicks to get there than V3 , A retrograde step.
I hope I've misunderstood but if not then this is *not* what anyone understood was being worked on and not what we have been repeatedly telling people over the last month or more who have complained about the default to the 'All' page. The default to the 'All' page for our view will continue to be a constant, clumsy daily irritant. I really feel like a fool for telling so many people that this was going to be fixed. If V4 is going to continue to always default to the 'All' page without even the option for us to change that then that really and truly sucks. It is hugely dissapointing and makes V4 much more unnattractive than I had thought it was going to be and this getsatisfaction process something of a farce.
To ask us to raise it yet again, as a new feature after this thread asking precisely that has run for well over a month with the expectation of the promised implementation is simply insulting and I have no expectation whatsoever that it will ever be done. I really am pretty disgusted by this. The request made in this thread has not been implemented and so the thread is mis-labelled. Something totally different has been implemented.
I’m really disgusted by this
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I shall take comfort in the fact that Elle has faith in SU. My darker side tends to take Charles' view though... Why would SU have instigated this "favorites default" in the first place?? Yes, I am that paranoid.
Charles: "Equally important is that defaulting to a dumb list of fav's encourages Users not to review, since they get to see a nice list of their fav's with images - not reviewing actually makes stumbling less social - which is the case IMO with other changes made in V4 - despite SU's claims otherwise."
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I appreciate the fact that, a month ago, SU said they intended to implement this in an 'upcoming release' and we are indeed all being patient. During that month its been mentioned over and over again and even cited by some as evidence that SU is trying to downgrade the importance of our 'blog' (review) page and change the way we use SU.
Its one of the main things that very many people immediately notice and find strange on first trying V4. Even for those of us who have switched full-time to V4 it remains a constant daily irritant. So I would suggest that this relatively small fix is likely to bring a disproportionately large amount of benefit in terms of making it easier for people to convert to V4. It really will be well worth doing.
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Inappropriate?We will address this in an upcoming release by defaulting to the "reviews" view if you have written a blog in the past. Cheers.
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Inappropriate?Yes. Had the same problem with the last horrible new version in the beginning.
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Inappropriate?Update : the more I use V4 the more this minor irritant really annoys me. In day-to-day use its truly the small things that can make a big difference. I'm glad its going to be fixed and look forward to it being implemented so I can ejoy V4 even more :)
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Inappropriate?Add option make the selection of default tab in profile. (all / reviews/discoveries,etc)
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Inappropriate?Though in my 'account preferences' I've checked default view as 'Your Reviews & Blog', whenever I check my profile it shows 'All' and not my 'Reviews' as it should have been.
But for some others' profiles, it shows Reviews as the default.
Just not able to understand what the problem might be. Am I missing something? How do I change the default view?
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Inappropriate?I really like the clean interface. Please, though, restore the function whereas I can hide the page thumbnails when my review pages open up. Also, I would like my pages to open up to other stumblers coming onto my site into the 'Reviews' rather than my 'Favorites' section. If they want to look at my 'Favorites' then people can click to access that pages - but I wish to present my 'Reviews' first and foremost. Thanks.
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Inappropriate?Yep, this is an irritant, needs fixed. Not only default for viewers but I want it to default to reviews for me as well.
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Inappropriate?Of course when I go to my accounts I can not find account preferences and since there is no longer a home or blog or editor I don't know how to put anything on here, I am very frustrated.
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Inappropriate?gentle *bump* .. its 26 days since it was said a solution was in progress and there have apparently been a few releases of changes to V4 since then. Its not as urgent as some things ( although iits essential it gets done at some point before the full roll-out of V4) but in its present state its just a daily irritant that detracts from what is otherwise a great interface. Could we have it fixed fairly soon, please, or an update on when it will be fixed ? ..:))
To recap .. the view other visitors sees already defaults to the review page. Thats fine and as it should be
But when I go to my site or click favorites it should also default to the 'review' page .. not the 'all' page as at present
I’m hoping it gets fixed soon
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Inappropriate?It would be better if there was an option to change the default view for your favorites between Reviews and Blogs and Favorites or pages I liked like it was there in the old version under customize profile section.
Thank you.
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Would love to have the "default view for your favorites" option back in customize profile section..
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Inappropriate?This is actually the main reason I keep switching back to V3.
So I'll add to elle's *gentle* bump. ;P
I’m Wondering if it's ever going to stop raining..
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Inappropriate?There's no need for a bump, guys - we've heard you, the problem has been acknowledged by the engineers, and this is marked as "In Progress".
All that is required now is that you all exercise a little patience, please, and we'll update this when we have news.
Much obliged, thanks!
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But seriously why shouldn't we harass you over this. Look at the tag-cloud, where is it? that's a problem marked as implemented but it's clearly not.
What SU says and what SU does are two different things - look at the banner encouraging users to switch interfaces - it claims V4 is "more social."
That's just false advertising when you take 'SU friend' and replace it with "Mutual Subscribers who can "Direct Share" " which isn't catchy or particularly descriptive.
AND I'm already getting messages like this "i subscribe to your blog. with Su changes, i hope to be friends and share our interests. i choose (Accept shares to my toolbar ) to be able to send pages. :)"
Then V4 strips out the customisation making pages less personal ie less social ...and plus defaults the 'all' page, which is an inaccurate reflection of an active users profile.
V4 is simpler, but it's not as intuitive as the original Classic SU - and manages to be less social at the same time. -
As you said yourself, Charles, you're just going to continue complaining.
One reason for at least pausing to take breath would be to await some of the solutions that have been promised - as is the case with this particular issue. As soon as we have an update, we will bring news to this thread you so that you offer us feedback on the delivered solution. -
hmmm given this is a repeat of the screw up in the V2-V3 which also defaulted to 'all' and not reviews, I'm left wondering why get it wrong again?
I'll pause for breath once I am convinced the promises made here are genuine. When you mark something as implemented eg tag cloud when it clearly isn't - this just speaks volumes.
When the banner says more social, and it isn't but is less social than the Classic SU ( which is still way ahead in terms of ease of use ) then again SU is giving itself a credibility problem. -
Thanks Charles, you are speaking my mind!
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YES, Thank You Charles, you speak for many of us!
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Inappropriate?'Reviews' should be the main or homepage, not 'All'. Other than that minor grumble. I really like the new version ;~D
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Reviews *is* the default landing page for all visitors, Plus46, signed-in or otherwise. There is a request in with the engineers to consider providing a default option which governs which page *you* land on, when acessing your own profile!
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Great to hear this is being addressed in the upcoming release ;~D
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Inappropriate?Why not have the option to set the review page as the first page other stumblers see when they view your account? The reviews and full size photos I post are enjoyed by many of my subscribers. Now, the first thing they see is my favorites. In settings, could you make an option of reviews as the default page for anyone viewing your account? I don't mind the redesign, In fact it looks clean and sharp. I just wish you would give me the ability to guide people to my reviews first...
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"Reviews" instead of "All" as first page people see..
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Inappropriate?I believe I can still set my blog so the default first page any visitor sees is the blog (review) page in list format. Thats fine and absolutely essential.
Would it also be possible for that choice to be honored when I click the 'favorites' tab and when I go to my blog ? I believe this is how it currently works on V3 (the 'home' tab has been removed in beta) . The blog page is the one I always want to see first, thats my 'home' page, but at the moment I have to click on favorites and then click again on reviews every time and its just a bit cumbersome and less convenient.
If someone wants to see the 'all favorites' page first on their blog thats fine, but I'd be greateful for the ability to set my own blog for the behaviour I've described. It doesn't affect anyone else but it would make my SU experience a bit easier and more pleasant.
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Inappropriate?Give me back the option to default to reviews-only on my own page.
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Inappropriate?I want to set my reviews as the default view for visitors. Right now they see "All" first.
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Inappropriate?I want my reviews shown on my page, not the all section. I want people to visit my page and the first thing they should see is my beautiful reviews! How do I change it?
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YOU YOU YOU! It's not about You or Me or your beautiful page that you put your heart and soul into or making friends or what works anymore Elvia, it's about SU trying to be the best search engine it can be and hoping and dreaming of being the next google. The powers that make the decisions at SU are hoping we give up on our sites because they take up too much space on their servers. Personally I wish they would have started a separate search engine site called SOOGLE and left SU as the best Social Networking site ever devised.
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Inappropriate?Hey! Looks like they fixed it! When I click on my visitors now, it goes to REVIEWS instead of ALL! Unfortunately when I click on FAVORITES on my tool bar to go to my own site, it still goes to ALL.
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Inappropriate?Yea.. last I heard they were considering changing that.. I am guessing they just might.. dang I hope so.
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Inappropriate?- Charles says:
" ...Then V4 strips out the customisation making pages less personal ie less social ...and plus defaults the 'all' page, which is an inaccurate reflection of an active users profile."
Perfect. That is what we mostly thought.
Now I think that the it would be really really good if we could
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"We will address this in an upcoming release by defaulting to the "reviews" view if you have written a blog in the past. Cheers."
hmmm a) what "an upcoming release" supposed to be in matter of time..?
Is that sooo hard to having immidiately the possibility to select to do that , from the options menu (like it was possible to do at the last version)?
b) "if ou have written a blog in the past" what exactly means
Thanking you in advance...
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B) It means if you have atleast one review/blog the Review page will be the default.
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Inappropriate?I have spent the past 3 days trying to figure out how to have my review/blog show when people come to my page. I work on what I create to show the public and if it only shows my "favorites" or "stumbles" they won't go on to my reviews/blog. I actually rarely stumble anything unless a friend sends it to me. I hate this!!! But I quit the last time they changed it from the original. I won't leave this time, but I won't be coming around.
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Inappropriate?don't like that "all" is not what i consider my home page. you consider it as such but not i.
hate it ate it!!!!!
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Inappropriate?Reviews as the first appearing page
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Inappropriate?I use to have my reviews as a home page...Now I see first my Favorites as my home page and I cannot change this...
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Inappropriate?when i click on Favorites i want to see my (reviews) and not (all) first, can we do that or is this how its supposed to be. I find it very annoying to have to click on reviews all the time i go to my favorites
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Inappropriate?I would like to add that for some of us, the reviews-only page is actively misleading. You get a very different impression of the kind of person that I am depending upon the mode that you view in. Of course, people are still free to view the other mode, but it's too late in many cases: they've already closed the tab!
I’m annoyed that the smilies are directed towards the idea, not the issue raised.
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that's a fair point Tim, everybody stumbles differently, viva la difference.
But. The historical default page was always reviews. For Stumblers who have been here for a number of years, five in my case we have built blogs on the basis the reviews page has been the default.
But. Equally important is that defaulting to a dumb list of fav's encourages Users not to review, since they get to see a nice list of their fav's with images - not reviewing actually makes stumbling less social - which is the case IMO with other changes made in V4 - despite SU's claims otherwise -
I got this back-to-front! I meant that the preferences-only page is misleading in my case. However, Charles's comment is absolutely to the point.
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Personally, assuming I were staying after 4 years (which I'm not), I am discouraged from thumbing up as many sites as I used to, especially controversial ones which is probably the opposite of what the misguided decision makers wanted.
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Inappropriate?I appreciate the fact that, a month ago, SU said they intended to implement this in an 'upcoming release' and we are indeed all being patient. During that month its been mentioned over and over again and even cited by some as evidence that SU is trying to downgrade the importance of our 'blog' (review) page and change the way we use SU.
Its one of the main things that very many people immediately notice and find strange on first trying V4. Even for those of us who have switched full-time to V4 it remains a constant daily irritant. So I would suggest that this relatively small fix is likely to bring a disproportionately large amount of benefit in terms of making it easier for people to convert to V4. It really will be well worth doing.
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I agree... hitting my favorites button on my toolbar and being dropped on that "All" page is VERY annoying every single time I do it.
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Inappropriate?I shall take comfort in the fact that Elle has faith in SU. My darker side tends to take Charles' view though... Why would SU have instigated this "favorites default" in the first place?? Yes, I am that paranoid.
Charles: "Equally important is that defaulting to a dumb list of fav's encourages Users not to review, since they get to see a nice list of their fav's with images - not reviewing actually makes stumbling less social - which is the case IMO with other changes made in V4 - despite SU's claims otherwise."
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I tend to take this view, numbers are everything -- it devalues any thought that may go into a review. But also opening my page to my thumbs up rather than my blog -- definitely makes me question some of my thumbs up.
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Inappropriate?Can you please make it so I can land on my review page when I log in? As opposed to all. -
Inappropriate?This feature is in progress. I will definitely update this ticket when I have more information.
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Can't wait to hear. It's hard to forget this problem since we open up to it everytime we log on.
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Inappropriate?Fixing this particular 'stumbling block' will make many people happy; it's been one of the most annoying and long-standing problems with the new version.
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Inappropriate?I think some folks are reading way too much "motive" into the way things are implemented:
I don't think they stumble all that much themselves so it seems counter-intuitive to them that you'd want to land on your own page. You already know what's there, right? You created it, so it's not new content. Why would any stumbler want to look at that? And yet, we do like to look at our creations, and at least for me, I can follow a link or idea I had and come up with some new post. Mirror mirror, on the wall.
Since they don't "power-stumble", they also miss some finer points of stumbling. For example, I was talking to a dev a few weeks back and he laughed at the "etiquette" about visit-backs. Some people visit all their friends or subscriptions after they make a post. I know who these people are so I visit back when I'm online. And I don't usually visit back people I don't know because often, it's "visitor spam", they want me to visit their pages so they can sell me something. One gets unfriended if one stumbles one own page too often, but a visit is more like "dropped by for coffee in case you aren't busy".
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The question that is out there - as best as I can understand ( and if memory serves me right ) is this - Why did the Dev's repeat this mistake? Didn't they try to default away from our reviews when they killed the Classic look?
Wasn't there a hue and cry then?
Ok, I'm not a conspiracist; I choose cock-up over conspiracy on any given day; but I also have another rule of thumb, once is a mistake, but twice is foolish.
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My best guess: different devs, and moving target on specs. But I don't work for SU so I dunno.
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Given the size of SU I find it surprising someone in the room didn't remember screwing up this one last time. However I suspect the bottom of the problem is your main point above; that "they don't "power-stumble", they also miss some finer points of stumbling."
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Inappropriate?I couldn't wait one more second for this fix... I was pulling my hair out.. So I hovered my mouse over the link on my page that says "Reviews" held down my pointer and drug that sucker up onto my FF toolbar. Now.. I am one click away from my review page.
Of course I still keep hitting my favorites button by mistake (old habits die hard) and every time I do, my right eye twitches...
Anyways this is a temporary fix and I thought I would share it with you guys since I know I am not the only one mega annoyed by this.
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Inappropriate?In the settings tabs, it's unclear how to set the default view of the blog to present 'Reviews' rather than 'Favorites.' I much prefer to have people start with the reviews.
Also, the blog presents with embedded videos, even though I've unchecked this feature in the settings tab. And there appears to be no provision for ditching the thumbnails.
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With regard to the "default page" - for your own visits to your own account pages - I can confirm that this is ticketed and with the engineers. When others visit your pages, then the Reviews page is already the default, provided that you have posted at least one review. If not, the default for visitors is "All".
We'll bring an update to this thread when we have one.
The issue about videos being embedded, even when the option is set not to embed is also ticketed and being attended to. There are no plans that I am currently aware of for revising the display of thumbnails in the V4 interface. By all means start a new "feature thread" for this, if you feel strongly enough about it. -
"When others visit your pages, then the Reviews page is already the default, provided that you have posted at least one review." The past few days I have found that this is not the case. There are pages I have visited where the "All" view was the page I landed on, but the stumbler did have at least one review. Or do you mean one review that was posted after the switch to V4?
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I just tried adding a "test" review of my own blog to my SU blog after switching to V4 by default. So far, this does not change the logged out appearance of http://vipergeek.stumbleupon.com from All to Reviews.
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Gladsdotter to the rescue!
http://getsatisfaction.com/stumbleupo...
(aka. http://is.gd/4SHfA)
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Hey CH... I think the bug might still be lurking on some peoples pages.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/stumbler/t...
She does have BLOG posts that are NOT a "review" but JUST a blog post and I landed on her "all" page when I clicked her avi from my recent visitors page. -
Inappropriate?It goes without saying that Elledark is right on the money, as are others requesting (demanding?) that "Favorites" takes one to their Reviews rather than All stumbles.
While mentioned previously, I wanted to make this an explicit request.
Please insure that http://vipergeek.stumbleupon.com (for example) also defaults to the user's Reviews (blog) rather than all of their stumbles.
I pride[d] myself on being able to share this URL with friends, knowing they'd see the content and reviews I posted, not every little thumbs up I traversed while sleep-deprived at 2am.
Thanks for providing we rabid SU users with a forum to provide official, recognized and answered feedback!
- Dave
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Gladsdotter to the rescue!
http://getsatisfaction.com/stumbleupo...
(aka. http://is.gd/4SHfA)
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hey .. I just visited and landed on your review page so whatever you did worked ..:) The default you see yourself is still the 'all' page unfortunately but hopefully that'll be fixed before too much longer.
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WTF?
How are we supposed to know these arcane rules?
(Noting also this discussion going on at the moment, which relates to several hundred of my own posts possibly needlessly messed up).
I'm finding the simpler new SU more complicated the more I look into it.
As baffling as Myst, in fact, and a lot less entertaining.
Pertinent analogy:
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The suggestion that fixed ViperGeek's problem isn't an arcane rule, it's a bug. It's a bug that has been known for some time and remains unfixed. As do many other bugs. As we all know.
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I have no idea what is by design and what is by accident.
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Unfortunately alice, I think most of us are in that boat =/
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Inappropriate?This has been implemented, as follows:
If you go to Settings > Customize Profile > Your Profile you will see Default View has been added back with two options: All and Reviews
This setting is enforced only on your public profile (just like everything else on the Customize Profile page refers to your public profile).
This setting does not apply to your logged-in default view (which will still continue to be All), nor to when you click on Favorites from the toolbar (which will take you to All).
If anyone wants a button on the toolbar to point to Reviews, I recommend you open an Idea topic and we'll take it under consideration based on number of votes.
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Done as suggested, since I've been hitting the favorites button since 2004 and going to my review page - I'm more than a little ticked off SU changed it for no good reason at all.
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Thank you Charles! I'm just the messenger, and I wanted to post this update as accurate as possible, to avoid any confusion. The more I think about it, the Favorites button on the toolbar is not a good match and perhaps having a "My Reviews" button for more advanced, prolific users is a better option.
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thanks Monica, I aim my ire at SU - not you personally, I'm not mad with you, but the point remains a simple one my reviews *are* my 'favorites'
Rather than institute a new button, and change established usage without good reason, create a button that says 'Likes' that directs to the list of 'All' thumbs up
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Okay well if that is the case I don't want the favorites button on my toolbar anymore (Tools - Toolbar Options - deselect "Favorites" ; for anyone else that wants to remove it)! I wish it still went to my reviews but I found a way around that... "hovered my mouse over the link on my page that says "Reviews" held down my pointer and drug that sucker up onto my FF toolbar. Now.. I am one click away from my review page."
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Inappropriate?Thank you very much, Monica! It's pretty cool to see near real-time improvements to StumbleUpon like this. Keep up the excellent work, and thanks for monitoring this forum.
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I’m impressed
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Inappropriate?It looks like this topic was originally titled "Clicking favorites should default to blog review page" and re-titled "Ability to set reviews as my homepage". It looks like SU was working on the new title's idea, but not the original one.
Yes, I'd like to have visitors see my review page first, and I'm glad that option has been made available.
But I really want my review page to be the default page I see when I look at my favorites. I want to see how my page looks to visitors, not the blobby list of EVERYTHING I've thumbed up.
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You can always access your Public Profile by clicking on your username on the sidebar in order to see how your plage looks like to visitors.
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Inappropriate?So as I understand it, after waiting well over a month for something to be done, our public view will default to the 'review' page (as it has done for me all along anyway) but the default view we see ourselves when we go to out site or click 'favorites' will continue to be the 'All' page ? Exactly what this whole thread and all of the people who have contributed to it have requested that it *not* do ? How anyone can therefore say this request has been 'implemented' beggars belief. For everyone who regards their 'review' page as their home page it is now clumsier and requires more clicks to get there than V3 , A retrograde step.
I hope I've misunderstood but if not then this is *not* what anyone understood was being worked on and not what we have been repeatedly telling people over the last month or more who have complained about the default to the 'All' page. The default to the 'All' page for our view will continue to be a constant, clumsy daily irritant. I really feel like a fool for telling so many people that this was going to be fixed. If V4 is going to continue to always default to the 'All' page without even the option for us to change that then that really and truly sucks. It is hugely dissapointing and makes V4 much more unnattractive than I had thought it was going to be and this getsatisfaction process something of a farce.
To ask us to raise it yet again, as a new feature after this thread asking precisely that has run for well over a month with the expectation of the promised implementation is simply insulting and I have no expectation whatsoever that it will ever be done. I really am pretty disgusted by this. The request made in this thread has not been implemented and so the thread is mis-labelled. Something totally different has been implemented.
I’m really disgusted by this
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Exactly!
CH even said "Reviews *is* the default landing page for all visitors, Plus46, signed-in or otherwise. There is a request in with the engineers to consider providing a default option which governs which page *you* land on, when acessing your own profile!"
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I agree elle , and honestly if someone @ Su is so dead set 'and I really can't figure out why' keeping that fav button going to the nonsense page then just bring back the home button.
Least i think it was called home. ;)
Serina's fix does work btw , however people are really getting tired of having to hack su to get it to do simple functionality things THAT IT USED TO DO ALREADY... sorry for the caps but......., epic fail. -
If I've misunderstood this (and I hope I have) then I'll happily apologise but if it is as explained here then the decision is stupid beyond belief and betrays no understanding whatsoever of how people actually use SU and the way that its been mis-handled in getsatisfaction stinks too. If they never intended to fix the problem why not say so over a month ago ? Its not like me to be so direct but really .. what a complete and utter farce.
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then I've misunderstood it too, the first thing I did was goto settings and then hit my 'favorite' button to be disappointed.
dammit I've been doing this since 2004 and now SU insists my reviews aren't my favourite pages...
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Inappropriate?I fully agree with all you have said Elledark.
I too am both disappointed and disgusted with the outcome of this request.
I really cannot understand the advantage of landing on a mass of jumbled links mixed in with some distorted reviews and flashy assorted thumbnails.
It is a mess that I would rather not see.
So many here have asked for this to be changed and it is unfair to ask us to start again!!
I’m not happy
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Inappropriate?I am as dumbfounded as Ellie that we were asked to start a new thread requesting this when THIS thread WAS IN FACT created for THAT purpose BUT alas it has been done.
http://getsatisfaction.com/stumbleupo...
Totally pointless imo... *shrug* Maybe I should give up? Should I? I know others have... sounds like even Ellie is starting to waver... This is a bad sign people (and by people I mean Monica, lol).
Don't kill the messenger... and I'm not but I strongly suggest you march over to whichever dev/engineer that just told you this feature wasn't gonna fly and tell him/her "the ppl are pissed". ♥
I’m trying to laugh instead of dwell.
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Laughter it's the only way...
Seriously it's that or cry, because this is just wrong, Threads merged to quash dissent, threads renamed to alter the intent of the original post.
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Inappropriate?Well said, Ellie, but my page -- and obviously those of a large number of us - defaults to "Recent activity".
After that I get the All view -- assuming I know which button to click, because there is no smooth flow here -- and then it's another tab from there to the reviews page that is my home.
There is 100 per cent agreement on this, that stumblers regard the page where they place their reviews (or, dare I say it, blog postings) as home.
The only ones who don't are those who use SU only for bookmarking, and have never explored its advanced features.
Everyone hates being harassed (that's how it feels) by a list of links, albeit with their friends' names attached, when logging in and simply trying to get home.
They even hate landing on "All", since that is not home either.
Complaints have been made about this log-in problem from day one and the powers-that-be have steadfastly refused to acknowledge that it irks everyone.
It makes a very bad first impression and sends the message loud and clear that reviews are of no value, and what stumblers have to say is of no importance.
Were the management to fix that one matter of where we land I think a lot of people would overlook minor quibbles and go along with the changes w/o feeling too alienated.
In my opinion it is not an oversight though; it is part of the same plan that sees the visual editor dropped and groups relegated to the footnotes.
You may beg to differ but I'd just remind stumblers of the founder's intention to turn this place into "something between Google and Twitter" -- those were his words at the outset, not to us but to the marketing world.
The best we can hope for is that SU can still acommodate stumblers who review and "micro-blog" as well, but that's by no means certain in an interface that favours clicks and numbers over opinion.
It's also galling of course that in spite of now having a huge database of links and tags, SU has not seen fit to make those tags very usable -- another insult to the user base.
I’m gaining respect for Delicious and Tumblr instead
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Judefa you're so right - it's the sum of the individual changes that troubles me more than the individual changes themselves - SU is less social - blogging / reviewing is less important.
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Oh dear... now we are really on to something... you know I am singing a new tune when the humming in the back of my mind says "I agree with EVERYTHING Judefa just said" Often enough I agree with some or most of her words but usually disagree somewhere... in this case *tips her hat to Judefa* I am honestly sad to say, I think you might be right on here... 'Sept maybe the "Delicious and Tumblr" bit...cuz I'll always stay on SU... Shoot I guess I do disagree somewhere? Well we were almost there Jude! hehe
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@Judefa: Users land on "Recent Activity" only after they log in. This provides a quick way to see what your Subscriptions have recently discovered and rated. Every time after you log in, you are taken Favorites > All.
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Inappropriate?I'm going to defend Monica here. Please alert the media.
Monica and CH are the bear walking back and forth in the arcade game for the users to shoot at. They have to spin it because they sure can't tell what I think is the truth: there's in-fighting in the war room at SU.
Every so often benadamx skips through throwing confetti and singing "On the Good Ship Lollipop". This passes for communication from the developers. It's not working for me.
Serina and I have taken a huge amount of attacks from people for defending SU, been blocked and flagged hostile by people we'd never talked to, been attacked off site. No, SU didn't ask for it and probably don't want it. But it gives me a sense of entitlement that I|we|users will be respected and listened to by the developers.
That is not the case. One more time with feeling:
To the Developers: Need Dialog
I’m pretty damn hopeless at the moment
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I feel like that too Xine ... I've spent the last month or more telling many, many people who have been confused and annoyed by the way V4 defaults to their 'All' page not to worry because it was being fixed. When it dragged on and on I tried very gently and politely to remind them and was told to be patient and I was, in the expectation this was going to be fixed. I don't think they ever had any intention of fixing it and I feel like an idiot for advocating what is turning out to be incomprehensibly bizarre decision making and ramshackle implementation.
And then to come here and tell us to start another thread and waste another month or two (if ever) when the thread asking for precisely what we wanted has been ignored and *not* implemented*. It takes a lot to get me annoyed but this certainly has. Like you .. I'm pretty hopeless. I'm disgusted too and washihng my hands of the whole thing. I'd find it hard to say a good word about the way V4 is being implemented after this -
So have I Ellie.. so have I... and now we feel like fools.
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Firstly I admire your efforts, second I instinctively shrugged when I saw V4 and thought ok it'll get better. I did have Faith in SU too.
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Inappropriate?They just fixed it you guys.....
Thanks team!! Go team go!! lol
I take back agreeing with everything Judefa said (sorta).
I’m ecstatic.
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Yay! (Good heavens, that was torture!) I am thankful for this simple (!) change.
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yay I'm back where I started with the same functionality I have enjoyed for five years, thanks SU for taking away my toys and giving me just one of them back, now if I could just have a friend request list again to notify me when people want to share content with me, html formatting, and the tag cloud back V4 will almost be as useful as V3
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Ha! Charles, you just typed out the EXACT list of issues I find most important to address.
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Inappropriate?Oh, this is so good. Wonderful even!
No more growling and muttering sweet obscenities when I try to get to my page.
Thank you!!
I’m regaining my faith in SU
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And don't forget the slight lessening of carpal tunnel syndrome!
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Inappropriate?I'm gobsmacked !!
Right now it looks like its just been fixed. When I log on or when I click on 'favorites' its (correctly) going to my review page. I'm kind of bewildered because it wasn't doing this before and it wasn't what we were told here had been implemented. But if it really has been permanantly fixed then let me say unreservedly that I'm really impressed by the speed and responsiveness of this action. Brilliant.
Thank you SU .. you've done a really good thing and restored my confidence in the process and in the fact that you're listening. I think I'd better shut up for a bit now ..:))
I’m surprised, impressed and happy
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*cracks open some bubble for her and Ellie*
I am SO happy right now...
Thanks guys... I know for whatever reason it really seemed like you didn't want to do this for us but I am SO happy you changed your mind. ♥ -
I just want to thank everyone who pursued this for their expended energy as we traipsed through the labyrinth. I am not exactly certain that anything has changed, but since you all seem happy, something must have occurred. Yay. Thanks Serinadruid, Elle, Jude, charles... and last but not least, Monica. I remain concerned that the SU staff does have such a hard time understanding what we are talking about though. It is as though we are speaking some other language as they exhort us to do what we thought we were doing... again.
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Inappropriate?Still confused, since it is at variance with what Monica announced, but in this instance happily confused.
If by default stumblers can now log in and land on the page they regard as home, I predict grievances will halve and a lot more people will at least feel included in this new adventure.
Tks to everyone who raised a voice here.
My vote is still with the proletariat ;=)
I’m smiling - look!
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I wouldn't object to logging in and landing on the "all" page at all... so long as once I navigate away from it, it isn't thrust at me again.
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Inappropriate?Well, this is where the power of Get Satisfaction lies! :)
A fix was made. I posted about it describing exactly how it was made. You guys expressed your opinions. Our team watched and listened. Et voila!! WE DO LISTEN TO YOU!
The majority of our users thumb-up sites and use SU to organize their Favorites, but rarely write reviews. For them (that also includes any new user signing up for an account), the "All" page will still be the default and Favorites button will still take them to their "Favorites".
It's been a long, but successful day.
I thus retire and will see you all tomorrow!
Monica
I’m exhausted, but thrilled.
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Thank you Monica "and team" ;)
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Inappropriate?Don't forget to change your settings to /customize profile/default view *reviews* to avoid any further frustration!
A big thank you to everyone who hung in there and helped get this changed.
:-)
I’m happy and thankful!
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Inappropriate?Not perfect, but it'll do. Thanks everyone, especially Elledark, for your persistence, and to the SU team for listening and responding to our wishes.
I’m very happy!
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Inappropriate?Am I understanding correctly? This thread explained that
1) if I go to settings -> customize profile ->default view and click reviews I should be able to go to my own page and land on reviews (THIS IS WORKING FOR ME. YAY!), and
2) our public view will default to the 'review' page as long as we have written a review of any page.
Right?
Public view defaulting to the 'review' page is not happening. Do we need to start another thread requesting this now?
Or is this already in the pipeline? George's reply one month ago said it would be in an upcoming release. Monica yesterday sounded like our public view will default to the 'review' page" was already happening (I may have misinterpreted this). I *thought* I was landing on the review pages most of the time when visiting other pages.
Today I visited all the people's pages who thumbed up "Favorites button on the tool bar should default to reviews page" (http://getsatisfaction.com/stumbleupo.... All have reviews, but 3 out of 8 still have 'All' as the page I land on.
Is there any way of keeping these "Get Satisfaction" pages showing the entire thread? It is hard to keep track of what is being aimed for, accomplished, and who said what/when if the major part of the discussion disappears.
I’m a little addled, but more hopeful
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The reason you'll land on the All page of some stumblers is probably because they haven't changed the new setting to Reviews yet (or don't want to), as All is the default setting.
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That doesn't sound like what Monica was saying yesterday, but I can't access what she posted earlier in the day because this thread is only showing the 15 most recent posts. I thought the default view when going to one's own page would be "All" unless settings were changed, but the default view going to others' pages would be "Reviews" if any review had already been made.
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Some people might want people visiting their profile to see All first, so I think it being an option is good thing.
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Meneth never one to be against choice but the premise is faulty, the default state should have always remained reviews = favorites.
The mistake is trying to change what was instituted from the start of SU.
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I'd probably agree with you if Reviews only showed positive reviews, but it doesn't, so your most recent reviews isn't always favorite pages, but rather pages one dislikes enough to write about it.
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the inclusion of negative reviews doesn't nullify the argument.
the term favorite is arguably not entirely accurate, but then again niether was friend, they are however the simplest and most complete terms to describe the SU experience
Arguably a negative review expresses interest and or an opinion, so qualifies as a 'favorite' unless you don't favour your own opinions and feelings?
Fundamentally the reviews page = favorites was the case in the beginning, changing to all is illogical, and unnecessary and sends a message that reviews, our personal input into SU is not valued.
Lastly I don't bother thumbing down anymore, as it doesn't serve any purpose, the SU engine isn't that smart.
I have long argued that we should be able to hide reviews - to take reviews out of the blog fall - if I could do this I would review more pages, I don't need reminding of sites I don't like for example, however the inclusion of a pithy review on the info page ( but not in my blog) might aid another user -
What's wrong with seeing negative reviews? That's one reason i think "Favorites" is not quite a fitting a name for going to the "home" page; it makes it sound like you should only be posting things you like.
Reviews aren't necessarily favorites, but are what you care about. And that can be a positive or negative opinion.
Negative reviews should be included on the default page we see. They also are part of the wonderful flavorful a Stumbler adds. That's why I don't want to land on the "all" page. There's no flair -- I just see what someone likes or dislikes, but under reviews I can see *why*. That's the interesting part to see. That's what shows if another Stumbler and I have connections. That's part of what makes SU a social venue. -
I don't think it is anything wrong with people seeing other people's negative reviews, I was just refuting "reviews = favorites."
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But can you trust SU? I'd be happy with home over favorite, it's just the former along with friends has been the cornerstone of SU, the terms are associated with it for me - can you imagine twitter abandoning the term follower or tweet?
And like I said I don't trust SU to come up with something easy to get my fingers around, I'm getting RSI from typing Mutual Subscribers who can Direct Share, never mind the process of trying to explain what that means in practice -
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but. Sharers is technically wrong, I might as well stick with friends, which frankly is more accurate description of the process and has been the active word since SU started.
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We'd get "important default opinion page, but definitely not a blog" according to oh.sure :P
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Inappropriate?As ludicrous as it sounds, this one thing has made such a difference for me. I already had a perfectly functioning bookmark for it, but making the "Favorites" button do what it used to do has disproportionately warmed me to v4.
I’m easily pleased
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lol you and everybody else :)
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and did you notice? The "I hate the new interface" thread has petered out.
From now on I think it's a different ball-game -- one I'm happy to play, where I wasn't before.
It is not a small point, either FH, it is a crucial one.
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Inappropriate?@oh.sure, this is what Monica originally said:
"This has been implemented, as follows:
If you go to Settings > Customize Profile > Your Profile you will see Default View has been added back with two options: All and Reviews
This setting is enforced only on your public profile (just like everything else on the Customize Profile page refers to your public profile).
This setting does not apply to your logged-in default view (which will still continue to be All), nor to when you click on Favorites from the toolbar (which will take you to All).
If anyone wants a button on the toolbar to point to Reviews, I recommend you open an Idea topic and we'll take it under consideration based on number of votes. "
Then she came back and said:
"Well, this is where the power of Get Satisfaction lies! :)
A fix was made. I posted about it describing exactly how it was made. You guys expressed your opinions. Our team watched and listened. Et voila!! WE DO LISTEN TO YOU!
The (silent) majority of our users thumb-up sites and use SU to organize their Favorites, but rarely write reviews. For them (that also includes any new user signing up for an account), the "All" page will still be the default and Favorites button will still take them to their "Favorites".
It's been a long, but successful day.
I thus retire and will see you all tomorrow!
Monica"
I’m thankful.
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I have a question... does this mean new people won't have this option? They get the "all" page for life??
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Everyone has the same options on their Settings page. But when you create an account, Default View setting will default to All. You can change it later to Reviews.
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which is still wrong Monica, as soon as you post a review the favorite button should default to your reviews page, SU needs to invest in the future, new stumblers should be encouraged to participate to review, to tag, to drive new and original content, the current approach fails in this regard, we all have to begin somewhere, devaluing the review page sends a terrible message.
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I guess other stumbler’s pages that show the "all" page have not changed that setting. They default to seeing their own “all” page at first, and unless they change it visitors will also see it.
Can the default page that is presented be “reviews” if there are any reviews instead?
George said last month that this was on the way, “We will address this in an upcoming release by defaulting to the "reviews" view if you have written a blog in the past. Cheers.” Please let this be so. The list is mindless. I want some quality stumbles, not quantity – the quality ones, the ones with opinions backing them up are on the reviews page.
I'm really trying not to be dense here, but reading this thread in its in entirety a number of times and re-reading and posting has gotten me a little confused - there WERE some changes in direction by SU administration, and I can't remember what the final outcome was.
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This is the opposite of what we requested.
I’m annoyed.
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Sure - like I said up thread, reviews should be the default setting for everyone, the option should be ( if there is to be one ) to switch from reviews to all.
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I remember when I first started on SU I didn't know how to post comments or pictures. It was seeing other people's blogs with stories and pictures that showed their humor and fire -- that made this place interesting. It was the combination of the verbal and visual that made it interesting. If I followed links it was because of those people's posts, not because I saw a list of links accompanied by a thumbnail. (I'm also "oh.sure" -- I'm not sure why my settings did not change on this page. Oh wait, it looks like it switched over now.)
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Inappropriate?Defaulting to "all" sets the bar so low -- new stumblers can't even see what a good Stumbler page can look like, and won't aim to make anything interesting looking or with meaty commentary.
The only way people subscribe to Stumblers who only thumb up with no reviews is if they have airbrushed avatars with big boobs. If that's what SU is aiming for, why do we even bother...
I’m getting frown lines
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SU is mission statement I heard was to become a search tool somewhere between twitter and google. That might explain why 'airbrushed av's with obvious personality' might be seen as a good thing, if the general quality of the followers I have on twitter is a measure of things to come.
Thing is intelligent page rating does hinge on reviews, an interesting page often needs more consideration than do I like it, I might like the idea of cold fusion for example, but is it real? hitting the info page can often answer - or at least better inform, there are many 'too good to be true' claims on the webs, peer review is one tool to help sieve the wheat from the chaff
Thing is to have a good info page, we need a culture that promotes reviews, simple thumbs without reviews are not in themselves particularly useful - especially when the spammers use pacts with other spammers to round-robin and thumb up each other's crap. The only thing that can cut through that is an insightful review. -
Inappropriate?What makes SU special is exactly the opposite of what Digg and Delicious do for the web already, and that is: It makes sharing sites personal.
Adding "Reviews" under the Discover sub-menu would go a long way to make SU personal in v4.
I'm not a click-bot user that thumbs up and moves on... like apparently most users are. But to pander to this crowd will hurt SU in the long run, disenfranchise the fanaticly loyal SU base and ultimately turn SU into McSite with no substance.
I’m concerned
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wait.. isn't there a thread for that going? I think there is but if there isn't one should be created. If somebody has the url please post it here, I don't have time to hunt for it.
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Yes, Joost provided the link for it. The blue text in his comment is also a link to that other thread.
This thread really has not been implemented. The original title for this request was "Clicking favorites should default to blog review page". It's not the default view we are shown on our own pages. We have to change our settings to do that. When we click on someone else's page who hasn't changed that setting, we get sent to their "All" page first, not their reviews.
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Unfortunately this thread has been archived.
ie we are talking among ourselves, the many new visitors to GS won't see this as an active discussion.
Anybody can see the thread name has been changed the url still says clicking_favorites_should_default_to_blog_review_page, not "Ability to set Reviews as my Homepage"
It's just more grit to mill - evidence SU doesn't value blogging and or reviews and or User content. -
@Serinadruid: http://getsatisfaction.com/stumbleupon/topics/add_reviews_under_discover_sub_menu
@Margir: I believe SU implemented the ability to customize your own blog's default view. Just like in v3, users will need to switch what page people visiting their blog will see - from "All" to "Reviews".
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@Joost: Yes, I understand that SU allows us to change the view we see and have that page show to visitors to “Reviews”. Since that is not an automatic setting, it is still not a "default"
The default view for everyone is the "All" page. I think this is a mistake that still should be corrected. It is tedious to have to click away from that page constantly to get to the meaty “Reviews” page. I know I’ve reduced the times I look at other Stumblers’ pages because I’m disappointed to see that list so often.
The “All” page looks terrible. It gives no indication of why anyone should click on a link since there are very few review posts showing on that page (similar to how the Discover sub-menu now looks). Or, if a page is visually appealing, there is no sampling of that visual appeal that a photo blog post shows.
This default view makes the vast majority of people always have the icky “All” page as the first page visitors see. Many people will never bother to look for that setting. New Stumblers may never even think that there IS a setting for that. They will never bother posting interesting snippets if they don’t know they can since they will land on fewer pages showing excellent reviews. It will degrade the SU experience if those vibrant blogs are no longer presented as the standard to aim for. "But to pander to this crowd will hurt SU in the long run, disenfranchise the fanaticly loyal SU base and ultimately turn SU into McSite with no substance." Exactly!
@Charles: Since this has been archived, maybe we should start a new thread -- Making the default view “Reviews” has not been implemented.
I don’t know. I know I was pretty exhausted by this one thread, excited that we seemed to be getting somewhere after over a MONTH, and then very disappointed that the “fix” was addressing something else completely. -
A great idea, Margir. You should start a new thread to address changing everyone's default view to "reviews" (if they haven't explicitly selected a default already). :)
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@ Margir - unfortunately in the absence of any explanation I have to conclude " Many people will never bother to look for that setting. New Stumblers may never even think that there IS a setting for that. They will never bother posting interesting snippets " is actually what SU wants to happen.
It appears - may SU prove me wrong - That they don't want our blogs period, just our thumbs, ratings, tags.
I did think about recreating this idea using the original thread title, but there are so many features we have lost that I feel spread thin just trying to lend support to other Users in appealing for their return.
Also I am steeling myself for the chaos that will likely come when casual users are forced to switch to V4 - I expect the repeat questions and complaints about Firends, the tag cloud, etc will multiply greatly. -
My bad, I wasn't paying attention lol
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@Joost, I've taken your suggestion and made a separate thread here about making "Reviews" the default, not a setting you have to pick.: http://getsatisfaction.com/stumbleupon/topics/change_everyones_default_view_to_reviews_if_they_have_a_review
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